Thermal Expansion Coefficients
Hi,
does anybody know the Thermal Expansion Coefficients of the Cylinder Head and the Intake/Exhaust Valves? I am considering using custom-made valve guides and I want to determine the correct dimensions. Thank you for your help. JagoBlitz |
Look in your solid mechanics textbook, I don't understand why you're asking this in a thread
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If you can tell me the exact alloys which Honda used, I will look it up.
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Send a sample to a materials lab and they can perform EDS on it and give you the exact composition of the alloy, maybe they even have a match in their library.
Or look in your textbook and take an average for 2011 through 7075 since they're all a few tenths apart from each other. The maximum delta is .08x10^-6/degC, in this order of magnitude you are not going to see an appreciable deformation regardless which value you use. Or just eyeball the table and use 23.4x10^-6/degC. For OEM valves you will have to perform EDS. Honda is on top of their materials game and their engineering team is annoyingly hardcore and meticulous, I highly doubt you will find accurate information of what exact alloy was used. |
Originally Posted by rocketstarter
(Post 24598653)
Send a sample to a materials lab and they can perform EDS on it and give you the exact composition of the alloy, maybe they even have a match in their library.
Or look in your textbook and take an average for 2011 through 7075 since they're all a few tenths apart from each other. The maximum delta is .08x10^-6/degC, in this order of magnitude you are not going to see an appreciable deformation regardless which value you use. Or just eyeball the table and use 23.4x10^-6/degC. For OEM valves you will have to perform EDS. Honda is on top of their materials game and their engineering team is annoyingly hardcore and meticulous, I highly doubt you will find accurate information of what exact alloy was used. |
Originally Posted by JagoBlitz
(Post 24568716)
Hi,
does anybody know the Thermal Expansion Coefficients of the Cylinder Head and the Intake/Exhaust Valves? I am considering using custom-made valve guides and I want to determine the correct dimensions. Thank you for your help. JagoBlitz What is the reasoning for the custom made valve guides? Also, what is wrong with the factory ones? |
Originally Posted by smee123
(Post 24607676)
What is the reasoning for the custom made valve guides? Also, what is wrong with the factory ones?
Unfortunately, most companies do not specify which alloy they use for their bronze valve guides and that bothers me a lot. It's like saying "steel". Is it low strength? High strength? Stainless steel? There are so many alloys with different properties. It's the same with "bronze"... I just want to know what I am buying. |
Originally Posted by JagoBlitz
(Post 24607685)
Well, I would like to switch to copper/bronze valve guides to reduce wear and increase the lifetime.
Unfortunately, most companies do not specify which alloy they use for their bronze valve guides and that bothers me a lot. It's like saying "steel". Is it low strength? High strength? Stainless steel? There are so many alloys with different properties. It's the same with "bronze"... I just want to know what I am buying. |
Originally Posted by smee123
(Post 24607707)
Also to note, some manufacturers offer a hollow stem valve, which will throw a wrench in your thermal coef calcs.
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