5mm spacers = bad lugnuts?
08-20-2009, 08:09 AM
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If the nuts go on 5 turns and then start to bind, then it doesn't sound like cross-threading. Possibly the ends of the studs have stretched and the thread spacing changes abruptly at that point. That would cause binding, and would be a very good reason to replace the studs, whether or not you plan on getting longer ones.
08-20-2009, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Orthonormal,Aug 20 2009, 09:09 AM
If the nuts go on 5 turns and then start to bind, then it doesn't sound like cross-threading. Possibly the ends of the studs have stretched and the thread spacing changes abruptly at that point. That would cause binding, and would be a very good reason to replace the studs, whether or not you plan on getting longer ones.
I put 3mm spacers on and I still put longer studs in.
08-21-2009, 03:33 AM
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If you can't get 6 turns MINiMUM (i.e., 5 or 5 1/2 is not "close enough"), you need longer studs.
Also, torque to 80 lb-ft only! There is ZERO benefit to torquing them higher. Less thread-engagement PLUS excessive torque => you need new studs, all of them.
Also, torque to 80 lb-ft only! There is ZERO benefit to torquing them higher. Less thread-engagement PLUS excessive torque => you need new studs, all of them.
08-21-2009, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ZDan,Aug 21 2009, 05:33 AM
If you can't get 6 turns MINiMUM (i.e., 5 or 5 1/2 is not "close enough"), you need longer studs.
Also, torque to 80 lb-ft only! There is ZERO benefit to torquing them higher. Less thread-engagement PLUS excessive torque => you need new studs, all of them.
Also, torque to 80 lb-ft only! There is ZERO benefit to torquing them higher. Less thread-engagement PLUS excessive torque => you need new studs, all of them.
08-21-2009, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ZDan,Aug 21 2009, 04:33 AM
Also, torque to 80 lb-ft only! There is ZERO benefit to torquing them higher. Less thread-engagement PLUS excessive torque => you need new studs, all of them.
All over torquing does is stretch the studs.
08-26-2009, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by street_ruler,Aug 21 2009, 01:01 PM
so with the need for longer studs, are there any open ended or longer/deeper lug nuts that can be used with stock wheels?
08-28-2009, 03:42 PM
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It's difficult to find aftermarket ball seat lug nuts. A friend of mine was able to purchase some adapter washers that let you use a flat tapered lug nut on a ball seat wheel. I think they were from a VW parts shop. VWs have ball seats but they use lug bolts instead of nuts and studs.
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