Brake Setup Advice please
12-09-2018, 02:59 PM
#11
+1 for the URGE rear vented rotors. With ducting I think you'll find you will have the temps under control. I'd do those before I upgraded the fronts.
Also, I too run the ST43 pads. They are super durable and I have had no issues with fade. Modulation is not as good as with the DTC60 I ran before but the Hawks are really excellent so set the bar high. And the ST43 are easy on rotors and the dust just washes off.
Also, I too run the ST43 pads. They are super durable and I have had no issues with fade. Modulation is not as good as with the DTC60 I ran before but the Hawks are really excellent so set the bar high. And the ST43 are easy on rotors and the dust just washes off.
12-09-2018, 03:06 PM
#12
Save the money and do a true front BBK first. It will yield the most beneficial results. Re-evaluate afterwards if you still want/need the rear. It rounds out the braking package but is nowhere near as crucial as the front.
Keep in mind that replacement rings for the ST40 are anywhere from $476 to $600 for a set of 2 (~$238-$300 each) - (for those of you wondering, the low price, yes, I just picked up a set for that price last month - PM for details). You should get around 80-100 track days out of them. Replace when the slots disappear and your rotors look like blanks. The overall financial math still says it's worth it. You should be able to get an ST40 328x28mm kit for ~$1600, and residual used market value is around $1000.
I am also still on my original ST40 rings, from 2013. I anticipate getting at least another 2 years (16-20 track days) out of them.
Keep in mind that replacement rings for the ST40 are anywhere from $476 to $600 for a set of 2 (~$238-$300 each) - (for those of you wondering, the low price, yes, I just picked up a set for that price last month - PM for details). You should get around 80-100 track days out of them. Replace when the slots disappear and your rotors look like blanks. The overall financial math still says it's worth it. You should be able to get an ST40 328x28mm kit for ~$1600, and residual used market value is around $1000.
I am also still on my original ST40 rings, from 2013. I anticipate getting at least another 2 years (16-20 track days) out of them.
12-09-2018, 03:07 PM
#13
+1 for the URGE rear vented rotors. With ducting I think you'll find you will have the temps under control. I'd do those before I upgraded the fronts.
Also, I too run the ST43 pads. They are super durable and I have had no issues with fade. Modulation is not as good as with the DTC60 I ran before but the Hawks are really excellent so set the bar high. And the ST43 are easy on rotors and the dust just washes off.
Also, I too run the ST43 pads. They are super durable and I have had no issues with fade. Modulation is not as good as with the DTC60 I ran before but the Hawks are really excellent so set the bar high. And the ST43 are easy on rotors and the dust just washes off.
12-10-2018, 01:21 PM
#14
" You should get around 80-100 track days out of them"!!!!!!!
Me and a buddy of mines both have the Stoptech Trophy kit and the front rotors lasted us about 12-13 days until they cracked(Winmax W6 pads F+R). Which I'm ok with because the stopping power is great and still last triple more then what it use to be. We both don't running any cooling.
Me and a buddy of mines both have the Stoptech Trophy kit and the front rotors lasted us about 12-13 days until they cracked(Winmax W6 pads F+R). Which I'm ok with because the stopping power is great and still last triple more then what it use to be. We both don't running any cooling.
12-10-2018, 02:51 PM
#15
" You should get around 80-100 track days out of them"!!!!!!!
Me and a buddy of mines both have the Stoptech Trophy kit and the front rotors lasted us about 12-13 days until they cracked(Winmax W6 pads F+R). Which I'm ok with because the stopping power is great and still last triple more then what it use to be. We both don't running any cooling.
Me and a buddy of mines both have the Stoptech Trophy kit and the front rotors lasted us about 12-13 days until they cracked(Winmax W6 pads F+R). Which I'm ok with because the stopping power is great and still last triple more then what it use to be. We both don't running any cooling.
12-10-2018, 04:09 PM
#16
" You should get around 80-100 track days out of them"!!!!!!!
Me and a buddy of mines both have the Stoptech Trophy kit and the front rotors lasted us about 12-13 days until they cracked(Winmax W6 pads F+R). Which I'm ok with because the stopping power is great and still last triple more then what it use to be. We both don't running any cooling.
Me and a buddy of mines both have the Stoptech Trophy kit and the front rotors lasted us about 12-13 days until they cracked(Winmax W6 pads F+R). Which I'm ok with because the stopping power is great and still last triple more then what it use to be. We both don't running any cooling.
12-10-2018, 04:54 PM
#17
Cracked as in to the edge with about a 1/5th of an inch gap. Tracks were all bay area tracks. Laguna, Thunderhill (5mile,east,west), Sonoma. Pads are at 30%-40% remaining.
Last edited by 114_ap2; 12-10-2018 at 04:58 PM.
12-10-2018, 08:19 PM
#18
Odd, I have 33 days/113 sessions on mine. Mine are used in TT so sessions are 15 min vs typical 20-25 min HPDE sessions but 10-12 days is way low. Mine are cooled and I run ST47 pads.
12-11-2018, 06:28 AM
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I have the Urge/Girodisc vented front and rears and they are fine for me (I wouldn't consider myself "fast" though). Front's have some micro-cracking after 10 days (not bad though) and rears are still good. Will add ducting this season to see if I can extend my front pad life a little. If I had to do it over again, I'd go with the Urge rear rotors again and spend the incremental $800 more for a true BBK in the front.
12-11-2018, 07:08 AM
#20
I have the Urge/Girodisc vented front and rears and they are fine for me (I wouldn't consider myself "fast" though). Front's have some micro-cracking after 10 days (not bad though) and rears are still good. Will add ducting this season to see if I can extend my front pad life a little. If I had to do it over again, I'd go with the Urge rear rotors again and spend the incremental $800 more for a true BBK in the front.