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Old Dec 15, 2020 | 09:35 AM
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That should be more than enough to get you to sub 2:00.

Unfortunately, no data overlay, but his speedometer is visible on most parts of the track. This guy ran a 2:00 flat in a stock CR with just A052s on the OEM wheels and OEM suspension.
Video is his full coverage of GTA Buttonwillow - no separate video of his hot lap - he does two or three hot laps through the video.

Most important pieces are to watch his braking points, turn-in, speed carried through the turns, speed at exit, and speed just before braking. If you aren't hitting those speeds, that's where you're losing the time.

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Old Dec 15, 2020 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Bullwings
That should be more than enough to get you to sub 2:00.

Unfortunately, no data overlay, but his speedometer is visible on most parts of the track. This guy ran a 2:00 flat in a stock CR with just A052s on the OEM wheels and OEM suspension.
Video is his full coverage of GTA Buttonwillow - no separate video of his hot lap - he does two or three hot laps through the video.

Most important pieces are to watch his braking points, turn-in, speed carried through the turns, speed at exit, and speed just before braking. If you aren't hitting those speeds, that's where you're losing the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOIAUV-QUhI
thanks for sharing! the wheels/tire combo is pending depending on what the wife says tonight
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Old Dec 15, 2020 | 09:25 PM
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this is the latest. i tried dropping to 2nd gear thru the cotton corners, but the result is the same as last PB haha.
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Old Dec 15, 2020 | 09:46 PM
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You are braking too early on the front straight, you should start braking right at the start of the rumble strip when entering sunsrise. Also if you can carry more speed on riverside you will see your lap times drop significantly, I understand having no aero and carrying a lot of speed on there is tricky but its doable. Keep at it and remember to use the entire track and be a little smoother with your steering inputs.

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Old Dec 16, 2020 | 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by mokinbird87
this is the latest. i tried dropping to 2nd gear thru the cotton corners, but the result is the same as last PB haha.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tpzf...annel=REVlogue
Look at your shift points compared to any number of reference laps. Less is more, no need to go to second in Cotton, you just lose time going back to third and then you don't get to 4th until after cresting the hill on exit. Same for the bus stop, just leave it in 4th all the way, you're not gaining anything in 5th.

The line is much better than the last video you posted but take note of how jerky you are with the wheel. You're constantly making large corrections mid corner that's keeping you from committing to putting the power down out of a corner. You may need to slow down for a bit to learn how to smoothly put the car on the ideal line before trying to push the limit of the car. That or your car has a setup issue that's making it far too twitchy.

Also +1 on the braking comments. You're braking too early for a lot of these corners (again look at references). That's not to say you need to dive-bomb everything, that'll make you slower. You want to pick braking points/pressures that allow you to smoothly release the pedal as you feed in steering angle and then immediately switch to smoothly adding throttle while unwinding the wheel. If you simply release the brake and turn the car is gonna be loose, the S2000 likes partial throttle to keep the rear end planted. You need to figure out the timing between braking and throttle in the corner to keep it happy.

Keep at it and keep having fun!
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Old Dec 16, 2020 | 06:59 AM
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my steering input needs help for sure haha, and also braking. My compliance bushings are toast for sure, and not sure about others, but i have a lot of alignment change when i thresh hold brake... also the pads are toast haha. switching out to Raybestos ST43 to use on the good ol centric blanks
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Old Dec 17, 2020 | 05:14 AM
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I think you should focus on driving and not lap times at your current experience level. Don't get caught up in lap times, but instead on how the car feels. The lap times will come in time, but right now it looks like you're trying to push past your talent level.

I don't mean for that to sound like a knock but you're 8 seconds off the pace. If you can do a track day with an instructor it would help a lot to correct your mistakes.

Also, don't do any more mods to the car because you haven't maxed out the car in the current form. All you're going to do is push the limit further away and make it harder to catch.
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Old Dec 17, 2020 | 06:32 AM
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Leave the car alone for now and get some training. Practice without expert training only reinforces bad habits and making up techniques is usually worse.

Some allegory: I was (and remain) a "middle of the fleet" sailboater. I rigged my J/24 and bought the same sails just like the constant fleet champion with little improvement -- the "It's not me, it's the boat excuse." Then he and I swapped boats and crews for a Sunday. With my boat and crew he handily won the races while I remained "middle of the fleet." It wasn't the boat or my crew, it was me. I'm betting an expert driver can do startlingly better with your car than you as it sits today.

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Old Dec 17, 2020 | 08:37 AM
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Thanks folks. I am fully aware I'm the limiting factor most of my earlier track driving experience comes from the BRZ, which a lot of people say is an easier car to drive at the limits.. I do feel like the S2000 wants to kill me all the time, but I think I just need to trust the car more which will help me smooth out the steering.
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Old Dec 19, 2020 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Bullwings
That should be more than enough to get you to sub 2:00.

Unfortunately, no data overlay, but his speedometer is visible on most parts of the track. This guy ran a 2:00 flat in a stock CR with just A052s on the OEM wheels and OEM suspension.
Video is his full coverage of GTA Buttonwillow - no separate video of his hot lap - he does two or three hot laps through the video.

Most important pieces are to watch his braking points, turn-in, speed carried through the turns, speed at exit, and speed just before braking. If you aren't hitting those speeds, that's where you're losing the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOIAUV-QUhI
Description says Federal RSR. Also Enthusiast class on GTA only allows 220+ TW tires.
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