Ferodo DS 1.11 / Pagid RS 29 / PFC08 / Endless MX72
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Unfortunately yes. Endless increased the prices beyond even their race compounds and then discontinued them due to low sales Bummer because I'm on a set right now and they've been a great compound for mixed street and track use on the M3. I'm checking to see if we have any residual inventory for you but I'm almost positive we're out in the shapes you need.
They have unofficially been replaced by the new "MX72 Plus". I have not had a chance to try it on my own car but the first impressions I've heard aren't incredibly favorable - fairly significant increase in dust and noise over MX72 with a minor jump in initial bite and overall friction but no increase in heat tolerance over MX72. I'd still like to pick up a set to review for myself but it sounds like if you are using these primarily on the street then stick with MX72 and if you want something more aggressive for track work then go with ME20 or N35S if you are partial to Endless.
-Matt M.
They have unofficially been replaced by the new "MX72 Plus". I have not had a chance to try it on my own car but the first impressions I've heard aren't incredibly favorable - fairly significant increase in dust and noise over MX72 with a minor jump in initial bite and overall friction but no increase in heat tolerance over MX72. I'd still like to pick up a set to review for myself but it sounds like if you are using these primarily on the street then stick with MX72 and if you want something more aggressive for track work then go with ME20 or N35S if you are partial to Endless.
-Matt M.
Last edited by SpeedFreaksUSA; 05-23-2018 at 02:53 PM.
#16
Thanks again Matt!
I've only been using PU HC800s, they were my street/occasional track pad. Dusted like crazy but they last about a years worth of driving (daily). But I only did one day at Laguna and they were half gone.
I'll be running OEM pads for street and thinking about buying a few sets of ME20 for track. I just want them to last longer than the HCs did from one day at Laguna.
Cheers,
Alex
I've only been using PU HC800s, they were my street/occasional track pad. Dusted like crazy but they last about a years worth of driving (daily). But I only did one day at Laguna and they were half gone.
I'll be running OEM pads for street and thinking about buying a few sets of ME20 for track. I just want them to last longer than the HCs did from one day at Laguna.
Cheers,
Alex
#17
Yeah I have used them for quite awhile now on my car with Spoon calipers and Girodisc 2-piece OEM size rotors. I like them better than the Project µ Club Racer as they are easier to modulate for me and seem to last longer. The Winmax W5 (&W6) are also really nice dedicated track pads. They are quite a bit more aggressive on initial bite than the ME20 or CR but they take heat extremely well and last a long time. They are a bit more aggressive on rotors though.
I use the ME20 daily on the street without any major issues as well. No real noise issues (the Spoon calipers definitely help with that though) and dust and cold braking performance aren't really a problem at all. The Endless NE35S is a bit more aggressive version of the ME20 which I might try as well. For me ME20 works great as a multi-use pad, but I think the NE35S might be great for a dedicated track pad. It's all about compromises really. As you up the friction level and increase response, you also tend to decrease rotor and pad life. So just about finding the balance that works best for you.
A lot of good info on various Endless competition pads here: ENDLESS OFFICIAL WEB SITE
Endless have changed the name of their competition pads though. So ME20 is now (CC40), and NE35S is (CC43). The name corresponding to the high temp friction levels.
【ENDLESS】公式ウェブ | ブレーキパッド/サーキットコンパウンド
I use the ME20 daily on the street without any major issues as well. No real noise issues (the Spoon calipers definitely help with that though) and dust and cold braking performance aren't really a problem at all. The Endless NE35S is a bit more aggressive version of the ME20 which I might try as well. For me ME20 works great as a multi-use pad, but I think the NE35S might be great for a dedicated track pad. It's all about compromises really. As you up the friction level and increase response, you also tend to decrease rotor and pad life. So just about finding the balance that works best for you.
A lot of good info on various Endless competition pads here: ENDLESS OFFICIAL WEB SITE
Endless have changed the name of their competition pads though. So ME20 is now (CC40), and NE35S is (CC43). The name corresponding to the high temp friction levels.
【ENDLESS】公式ウェブ | ブレーキパッド/サーキットコンパウンド
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