Go Back  S2KI Honda S2000 Forums > Special Interest > S2000 Racing and Competition
Reload this Page >

First Track Day at Thunderhill... Spun out at 100MPH

S2000 Racing and Competition The S2000 on the track and Solo circuit. Some of the fastest S2000 drivers in the world call this forum home.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

First Track Day at Thunderhill... Spun out at 100MPH

 
Old 04-18-2019, 08:31 PM
  #1  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: San Francisco CA
Posts: 210
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 2 Posts
Default First Track Day at Thunderhill... Spun out at 100MPH

Hello All,

Last December I got a lot of advice from you guys regarding my first track day! I have put together a montage video (artistic perspective). However, it does show me spinning out on turn 1 (Final session of the day.) Any advice would be welcome, regarding the spinout or general advice. I feel like I was pushing the car just too fast, but there was no warning on the spin.

DanielZan is offline  
Old 04-18-2019, 10:19 PM
  #2  
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Fremont, CA
Posts: 1,750
Received 43 Likes on 34 Posts
Default

Sort of hard to get an idea of what is going on. Can't see much of the inputs and there is music over the car noise.
Soviet is offline  
Old 04-19-2019, 03:34 AM
  #3  
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Florida
Posts: 755
Likes: 0
Received 73 Likes on 50 Posts
Default

I noticed a few things that are dead giveaways:

1. You're driving like Vin Diesel. Both hands need to be on the wheel at all times, except when you're shifting gears. If you look at when you spun, your (one hand) hand is at the top of the wheel. Next time you're in the car - see how much motion you can apply to the wheel with one hand at that position. Also see how long it takes you to get to that position. You are not able to correct for over/under steer and you spun.
2. You are not driving your car, you're driving the car in front of you. You are following his line, his braking points, etc. Keep your eyes up and follow your line. It may be a good idea for you to ease off the pack until you get comfortable doing this.
3. Don't shift gears mid corner. Have the proper gear selected in the braking zone and then both hands need to be on the wheel immediately. Heel/toe is not required to properly achieve this.

You definitely need to go to an organization with a required instructor so he can beat the bad habits out of you. An autocross would do wonders as well. The things I mention above can be corrected on the street. I would also recommend getting a proper mounted camera, not the helmet drama cam. That way we, and you, can see your hand movements.
roel03 is online now  
The following 2 users liked this post by roel03:
HawkeyeGeoff (04-24-2019), the-moss (04-19-2019)
Old 04-19-2019, 04:02 AM
  #4  
Community Organizer
 
freq's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: in my garage
Posts: 20,863
Received 148 Likes on 134 Posts
Default

^^^ No need for me to watch the video.
freq is online now  
Old 04-19-2019, 11:38 AM
  #5  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: San Francisco CA
Posts: 210
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Thanks for the feedback!!!!

1) Yes, bad habit. I stay with my hand at the shifter.
2) Also very true!!! I found myself much more uncomfortable when I was in the front of the pack. The car ahead of me was a guide of how hard I could push, but without that I was not comfortable.
3) Yea
DanielZan is offline  
Old 04-19-2019, 11:51 AM
  #6  
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 497
Received 8 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by DanielZan View Post
Thanks for the feedback!!!!

1) Yes, bad habit. I stay with my hand at the shifter.
2) Also very true!!! I found myself much more uncomfortable when I was in the front of the pack. The car ahead of me was a guide of how hard I could push, but without that I was not comfortable.
3) Yea
The best piece of advice that roel03 gave you is to get an instructor. The instructor is going to spend as much time as is needed convincing you that you suck, and that's ok because we all sucked when we first started. Once you've accepted that you suck he/she is going to hopefully spend a bunch of time teaching you how to be safe and teaching you good technique. The very nice thing about motorsports is you can practice and work on your technique on your daily commute, tennis players can't do that.


1 - Get a coach/instructor
2 - Accept that you suck
3 - Listen to your coach
4 - Become safe and fast pretty rapidly
the-moss is offline  
Old 04-19-2019, 03:58 PM
  #7  
 
Xene's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: NJ
Posts: 320
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

"Accept that you suck" - lol, but true
Xene is offline  
Old 04-19-2019, 06:16 PM
  #8  
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 641
Likes: 0
Received 25 Likes on 23 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by DanielZan View Post
Thanks for the feedback!!!!

1) Yes, bad habit. I stay with my hand at the shifter.
2) Also very true!!! I found myself much more uncomfortable when I was in the front of the pack. The car ahead of me was a guide of how hard I could push, but without that I was not comfortable.
3) Yea
Don't rest your hand on the shifter, even if you're driving around town.
Say Chi Sin Lo is offline  
Old 04-19-2019, 07:35 PM
  #9  
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 598
Received 32 Likes on 29 Posts
Default

High speed track require you to be VERY smooth to be fast. Ditch the lead follow and build your own solid markers/lines.
j0oftheworld is offline  
Old 04-20-2019, 07:22 AM
  #10  
 
blueosprey90's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: New Milford, CT
Posts: 5,059
Received 56 Likes on 51 Posts
Default

I think the first order of business is for you, not us, to analyze the cause of your spin. That mean understanding why you spun so you can avoid doing the same thing in the future. So you have to categorize the spin. I can’t remember all the variations, but you have throttle oversteer, brake oversteer, trailing brake oversteer, etc. My impression is that you lifted at turn in - ever so slightly - so trailing brake oversteer with the engine doing the braking, maybe only 50 rpm. You need to be on throttle in the corner. Remember Taruffi. Whatever you do, don’t lift in the corner! Just my 2 cents. Cheers.
blueosprey90 is offline  

Quick Reply: First Track Day at Thunderhill... Spun out at 100MPH


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

© 2019 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands