Harddog/RSG street driving safety?

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Jun 18, 2013 | 09:11 AM

#21

GT Motoring

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Originally Posted by //steve\\

Does the older style one that sits farther back work with the bulkhead replacement or is that still in the way?

The bulkhead replacement bar only works with the 4 bend bars. We tried it on a customer with an older 2 bend bar and it would not fit.

Jun 18, 2013 | 09:47 AM

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SlowTeg

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Originally Posted by GT Motoring II

Just to be clear, the newer 4 bend main hoops bars mount in the same place. The Main hoop is the same in all the Hard Dog Bars - confirmed by Hard Dog just now on the phone. The Double Diagonal version requires you to remove your roll hoops due to the fact that the diagonals go from the main hoop to the rear supports - right through where the factory hoops are located. The bar mounts in the same place.

A 2 bend bar is available and does mount slightly further back, though not much.

Ok, it took a little bit to decipher your message, but after looking at a couple pictures I think I understand what you mean. I looked at Fasting's pictures and clarkster's and it looks like the mounting plates all mount in the same spot, but the actual roll bar that's welded to the plate is welded further forward in the "newer" version (maybe a couple inches?) whereas the older version the roll bar is welded further back on the mounting plates. Is that correct? I wonder how many inches forward the newer bar sits, I'd have to guess ~2" or so by looking at pictures.

For the lower harness bar does that sit more forward on the "newer" version or does it sit roughly in the same spot?

Jun 18, 2013 | 09:55 AM

#23

Bugsy

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Originally Posted by SlowTeg

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Originally Posted by GT Motoring II' timestamp='1371575384' post='22615989

Ok, it took a little bit to decipher your message, but after looking at a couple pictures I think I understand what you mean. I looked at Fasting's pictures and clarkster's and it looks like the mounting plates all mount in the same spot, but the actual roll bar that's welded to the plate is welded further forward in the "newer" version (maybe a couple inches?) whereas the older version the roll bar is welded further back on the mounting plates. Is that correct? I wonder how many inches of travel you lose, I'd have to guess ~2" or so by looking at pictures.

For the lower harness bar does that sit more forward on the "newer" version or does it sit roughly in the same spot?

Correct.
I went with the old bar because I'm over 6'2"... have Backyard lowered CR seats. I get full seat travel, lose only 2 clicks recline.
I didn't fit in a bud's car that had the newer style bar.... I mean I was in, just had no room to operate. The seat travel was most important to me.

Jun 19, 2013 | 07:23 PM

#24

rosica

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Maybe this is a stupid question, but why has no company made a roll bar extension like what is available for boxers? That would solve the dilemma of street/occasional-trackday car.

Boxter roll bar extension

Extension install

Seems too simple.....

Jun 19, 2013 | 08:50 PM

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ndogg

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Because that would not pass tech with any race organization.

Jun 20, 2013 | 06:55 AM

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///RS-2000

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Originally Posted by rosica

That looks like a neat solution but I'm not sure if it would pass tech at SCCA, NASA, HPDE like ndogg mentioned. I imagined this would be a complete replacement of the OEM roll hoops. Specifically relating to the S2000, I'm sure someone could fab a complete replacement of the OEM roll hoops that use the OEM mounts that are taller.