Moroso Weld-In Oil Pan Baffle P/N 23040
03-08-2018, 12:16 PM
#11
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TC Designs? had a couple of failures back in the day, I haven't heard of any recently with other baffles.
Last edited by freq; 03-08-2018 at 12:22 PM.
03-08-2018, 06:17 PM
#12
I recall someone welding in one of the baffle plate designs and their welds pretty much came loose. I don’t think it was a reflection of the plate itself just how difficult welding to a pan can be especially if it has seen oil.
04-19-2018, 07:00 PM
#13
I installed one of these last year and i'm happy with it. I didn't have any clearance issues with mine. I previously had a canton pan but got rid of it because those things are still leaking due to warped mounting surface. The best thing you can do to prevent welds cracking from installation of a weld in baffle is to preheat, it's mentioned in the install instructions as well.
04-19-2018, 07:07 PM
#14
Just to clarify....TC Designs is the only company I can remember that made a weld-in baffle. Only one failed (a weld broke and a piece of the metal blocked the oil pump). They didn't sell many at all, but decided to stop making them to avoid any potential reliability. (Note: Freq has kindly produced a link to a thread that indicates there were two, not just one, TC Design baffles that failed).
Moroso announced a weld-in baffle plate quite a few years back, but didn't actually produce and sell it then. But, as Canton was designing and making their pan, Moroso quickly started production of its product.
Note: bold and italics added to attempt to make clear that Moroso did, in fact, produce their weld in baffle.
Moroso announced a weld-in baffle plate quite a few years back, but didn't actually produce and sell it then. But, as Canton was designing and making their pan, Moroso quickly started production of its product.
Note: bold and italics added to attempt to make clear that Moroso did, in fact, produce their weld in baffle.
04-20-2018, 02:58 AM
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Just to keep the facts straight....TC Designs is the only company I can remember that made a weld-in baffle. Only one failed (a weld broke and a piece of the metal blocked the oil pump). They didn't sell many at all, but decided to stop making them to avoid any potential reliability.
Moroso announced a weld-in baffle plate quite a few years back, but never actually produced and sold it. But, as Canton was designing and making their pan, Moroso quickly started production of its product.
Moroso announced a weld-in baffle plate quite a few years back, but never actually produced and sold it. But, as Canton was designing and making their pan, Moroso quickly started production of its product.
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/s2000-ra...e-read-527198/
As for Moroso, they are STILL selling the weld in baffle.That's what this whole thread is about. DId Canton ever make a weld in baffle, I don't think so. Did Moroso ever copy Canton and make a replacement pan, I dont think so.
Are you drunk?
Last edited by freq; 04-20-2018 at 03:15 AM.
04-21-2018, 05:55 PM
#18
For what it's worth, this is another false statement from davidc1. I purchased a Canton pan last year that had a super warped flange. The flange also had very little sealing surface area so after I spent the time machining the flange flat, it still leaked. I chucked the POS Canton pan in the garbage, bought a blacktrax pan, and haven't had any issues since.
04-21-2018, 06:10 PM
#19
Facts? Pretty sure it was more than 1 motor that was lost due to the TC Design. I know one owner personally who lost their motor. SCHIghlander was another IIRC.
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/s2000-ra...e-read-527198/
As for Moroso, they are STILL selling the weld in baffle.That's what this whole thread is about. DId Canton ever make a weld in baffle, I don't think so. Did Moroso ever copy Canton and make a replacement pan, I dont think so.
Are you drunk?
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/s2000-ra...e-read-527198/
As for Moroso, they are STILL selling the weld in baffle.That's what this whole thread is about. DId Canton ever make a weld in baffle, I don't think so. Did Moroso ever copy Canton and make a replacement pan, I dont think so.
Are you drunk?
So, gee, there was a post by TCDesigns, 11 years ago, with a full 6 posts spaning 16 hours. I'm so sorry I missed it! But I guess you were correct Freq 'cause you said "a couple". So sorry...
Also, I never said Moroso wasn't making their baffle anymore, I never said Canton made a weld in baffle, and I never said Moroso made a pan. So, what's your issue?
Moroso produced a prototype quite a few years ago, applied a P/N, produced some advertising, but as far as I know, didn't start making it until a couple years ago.
04-21-2018, 06:14 PM
#20
Hey Devildust, sorry I wasn't clear. I said they produced designs for it quite a few years ago, but didn't actually start making it until a few years ago. There was a big gap between originally announcing it, and actually making it. My guess (but who knows other than Moroso) is that they decided the market wasn't there, or what happed with TC Designs made them choose not to make it for a while.
BTW, thanks for being civil.
