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Need more Negative Camber on Stock Suspension.

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Old Apr 6, 2018 | 02:17 PM
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Default Need more Negative Camber on Stock Suspension.

As titles states:
- I need more negative camber.
- Currently maxed on stock suspension ~ -1.8 in the fronts
- Since care is still stock heigth, what are my options

I've seen a few lower camber joints, but they seem to be for lowered cars.

I've read of upper camber joints, but read they slip.

Any other options?
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Old Apr 6, 2018 | 06:56 PM
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Megan offset lower ball joint. Don’t use the roll center correction plate. There is no easier cheaper or more reliable thing out there.
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Old Apr 7, 2018 | 04:54 AM
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+1 for the Megan offset lower ball joints. I ran them for 2 years on the stock suspension and got 3.2 deg of camber. I decided to do the lower ball joints because it was easier than the upper - no need to press them out - just unbolt the old and insert the new. But if you are thinking you may go with wide wheels later (10" or more) then you might want to do the uppers to gain additional fender clearance.
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Old Apr 7, 2018 | 05:26 PM
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+ 2 Get the lower ball joint camber kits. I use Hardrace kit. Easy to install.

Hardrace Front Roll Center Adjuster Honda S2000 A1 / AP2 - 6622 - BuyHardRace.com
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Old Apr 7, 2018 | 06:15 PM
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My understanding was that while harder to install, using the SPC (or equivalent) upper ball joints are the way to go.
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Old Apr 7, 2018 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by freq
My understanding was that while harder to install, using the SPC (or equivalent) upper ball joints are the way to go.
I don't think so. More prone to slipping out of alignment. And with the lower you can add a roll center adjuster plate if you lower the car to keep the geometry.

I use the Hardrace kit. Probably better than Megan.
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Old Apr 8, 2018 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by ThreeD
I don't think so. More prone to slipping out of alignment. And with the lower you can add a roll center adjuster plate if you lower the car to keep the geometry.

I use the Hardrace kit. Probably better than Megan.
When I researched this, I did not see any mention of slipping out of alignment. But if true, that's another good reason to choose the lower ball joints.

And good point about the roll center adjuster plates. When I eventually upgraded to Ohlins and lowered the car, it was nice to just bolt them in without having to buy them separately.
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Old Apr 8, 2018 | 09:29 PM
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The spc upper is harder to install and there have been reports of slipping. There is no reason to go that route when there is easier to install, and more reliable route.

And megan and hardrace are made in the same factory. So either one is good.
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Old Apr 8, 2018 | 09:52 PM
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I'm currently at stock height and went with the offset UCA bushings. Went from -1.8 to -2.8 front camber. I decided on the bushings due to:

- All lower ball joint kits I saw had integrated roll center adjusters. I did not want or need RCAs. Seems Megan discontinued their non-RCA style and Spoon was absurdly expensive. Just did a quick search and found the EVS Tuning ones but unclear whether it also raises roll center.

- No mod points in NASA TT4

- Making extra room for future tire upgrades

- Slightly decreased camber compliance

The only downside so far is that one of the bushings started squeaking after some rain driving. I paint-marked them on install and have not seen slippage after one year/7 track days.

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Old Apr 9, 2018 | 03:41 AM
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Offset bushings in the upper control arms are the way to go.
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