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Old 11-23-2015, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by yamahaSHO View Post
Looks like a nice kit, and configurable!

Questions: What kind of temps are you seeing on the street with the 180F thermostat? I ask because with a 200F thermostat in 40-50F weather, I sat in the upper 130's while cruising to the track this past week. Also, what temps were you seeing on track with both cores in 100F weather?

Back to oil coolers and questions - We’ve put this kit through its paces on the street, backroads, and track over the course of the last 8 months, with rock solid results. Buttonwillow, Thunderhill, and Sonoma Raceways to name a few. The worst conditions this year were at Buttonwillow Raceway here in California during a particularly hot day topping out over 100 degrees F. ambient. We ran the car almost 7 sessions (lost our brakes a couple times and had to pit so it wasn’t a full 7). Sessions were 25+ minute and mid-day temps were damn hot. Temps ranged from 205 early on in the day to a max of 228 at the hottest point in the day, though were rock solid and stable around 220F most of the day. This was with a baffled oil pan, intake, exhaust, basic bolt-ons, and the 25 row cooler. Running the 19 row cooler on other days for comparison (though they were cooler) I would guestimate an average of 230F, so a rough 10 degree difference between the two cooler sizes. There’s a lot of variables but that’s roughly what we’ve found so far. If anyone wants to do some hardcore testing on these things there’s a t-shirt in it for ya but I can say from our experience that we’ve put this kit through its paces over the course of 8 months and quite a bit of track testing… we’re damn confident with it and the Setrab coolers are some of the highest efficiency out there.

So 10,000 ft view is: 220-230F depending on cooler size and track temp.
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Old 11-23-2015, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 99SH View Post
Do you have pictures of the oil cooler mounted with bumper removed? Curious to see how it's mounted - I can peek at the radiator center mount being used as a mounting location.

Under hood shots would be helpful to see line routing. Some folks may have parts co-located they need to maneuver around.

May be worth mentioning, you're including the M22 fittings at the oil cooler too, correct?

+1 for using Setrab. One of the best!
Pics of cooler mounted:


We've added a bit extra length to the lines to allow clearance for additional parts such as intakes etc, but will also work with stock intake. You can route the lines lower if you want to clean up the runs a bit, we just took the path of least resistance with them and ran them where there was ample room to sneak them by the airbox, but there are a few ways to do it.


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Yes we include everything needed for the kit including m22 top fittings, every nut and bolt, and a pictorial instruction manual

Thanks, we love Setrabs too and use them on all our cars from Miatas to twin coolers for the ridiculously hot rotaries . They are indeed the absolute best out there in coolers!!




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Originally Posted by plAythiNG View Post
Does your mocal sandwich plate have holes for sensors??
No but you can always tap the adapter for an NPT bung very easily in a couple minutes.

Originally Posted by dsddcd View Post
Very nicely done, all high quality parts! Looks like the kit I built using a 25 Row cooler, nylon braded lines and Mocal thermostatic adapter b/c I could not buy a kit with all the parts I needed.

I have one suggestion, if you throw in a crossover house and a Honda oil filter adapter you can remove the OEM oil to water cooler. If you want part numbers for these just let me know and I will dig them up.
Nice setup, it looks like it came out great! (and thanks for the compliments as well) Yeah we were surprised when beginning to prep our new S2K shop car that nothing was out there with decent quality parts, and the Mishimoto version was priced insanely high, and uses cheap cores. Lot's of markup on the Mishimoto kit I can tell you that much, but I'll stick with Setrab personally.

We decided to keep the oil to water cooler adapter just for warm-up purposes and thought most people would want to retain it. We debated removing it on the S2K and Miata blocks but couldn't find a good reason to not have it

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I had a few Sakebomb things for my FD, including their oil cooler kit. Great quality stuff.
Hey what was your name on the forum? Just curious and thanks for the kind words! It's funny how many people cross over between the FD and S2K communities, we have many customers with both. They're both great cars, and I'd say pretty well matched toe-to-toe, but the S2K's don't blow up after 80K

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***UPDATE****

With the huge interest in the cooler kit and emails/orders coming in quickly, we’ve rethought the whole group buy idea. We've sold nearly half of what was needed for the group buy in the first WEEK alone, so instead of making you guys wait we decided to simply list the cooler kits at the group buy price for the first 30 (more) that sell since we’ve been able to secure a large quantity of components upfront. So, long story short, the cooler kits are available now, and we have a handful of lines, coolers, and components in stock with more on order now. We’ve sold over 15 kits so far and have had some nice compliments from recent customers so we’re hoping this will be a success.


Since Black Friday is already coming up we’ve wrapped this into the Black Friday sale. We've temporarily dropped the price of the kit on the website and you can USE COUPON CODE BF2015 to add an extra 10% off on top of the sale price to go beyond the listed group buy pricing!! Enter BF2015 at checkout on our website from now until Monday evening.



If you have any special S2K part requests... brake pads, suspension, radiators, etc just shoot us an email and if we have it available we'll add it [email protected]
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Originally Posted by SakeBomb Garage View Post
Originally Posted by plAythiNG' timestamp='1447275128' post='23801112
Does your mocal sandwich plate have holes for sensors??
No but you can always tap the adapter for an NPT bung very easily in a couple minutes.
Out of curiosity, where would you tap the mocal plate? I didn't think I could find a thick enough piece of aluminum to tap.

Also, props for using high quality components on the cooler. I'd already build a very similar setup, but have a local s2000 buddy who is ordering the kit, and will be helping with the install.
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Originally Posted by SakeBomb Garage View Post
Originally Posted by yamahaSHO' timestamp='1446683756' post='23795295
Looks like a nice kit, and configurable!

Questions: What kind of temps are you seeing on the street with the 180F thermostat? I ask because with a 200F thermostat in 40-50F weather, I sat in the upper 130's while cruising to the track this past week. Also, what temps were you seeing on track with both cores in 100F weather?

Back to oil coolers and questions - We’ve put this kit through its paces on the street, backroads, and track over the course of the last 8 months, with rock solid results. Buttonwillow, Thunderhill, and Sonoma Raceways to name a few. The worst conditions this year were at Buttonwillow Raceway here in California during a particularly hot day topping out over 100 degrees F. ambient. We ran the car almost 7 sessions (lost our brakes a couple times and had to pit so it wasn’t a full 7). Sessions were 25+ minute and mid-day temps were damn hot. Temps ranged from 205 early on in the day to a max of 228 at the hottest point in the day, though were rock solid and stable around 220F most of the day. This was with a baffled oil pan, intake, exhaust, basic bolt-ons, and the 25 row cooler. Running the 19 row cooler on other days for comparison (though they were cooler) I would guestimate an average of 230F, so a rough 10 degree difference between the two cooler sizes. There’s a lot of variables but that’s roughly what we’ve found so far. If anyone wants to do some hardcore testing on these things there’s a t-shirt in it for ya but I can say from our experience that we’ve put this kit through its paces over the course of 8 months and quite a bit of track testing… we’re damn confident with it and the Setrab coolers are some of the highest efficiency out there.

So 10,000 ft view is: 220-230F depending on cooler size and track temp.
That's interesting as my 19-row Setrab with ducting runs about 255-257F on track when up in the 90's on a shorter course and 250F at 98F ambient on our longer course with two high speed straights.
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Originally Posted by ViperASR View Post
Originally Posted by SakeBomb Garage' timestamp='1448343785' post='23811166
[quote name='plAythiNG' timestamp='1447275128' post='23801112']
Does your mocal sandwich plate have holes for sensors??
No but you can always tap the adapter for an NPT bung very easily in a couple minutes.
Out of curiosity, where would you tap the mocal plate? I didn't think I could find a thick enough piece of aluminum to tap.

Also, props for using high quality components on the cooler. I'd already build a very similar setup, but have a local s2000 buddy who is ordering the kit, and will be helping with the install.
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We've tapped them on the side opposite where the Mocal logo (there's a pocket that allows enough depth for most sensor bungs... you can probably squeeze two in there if you try hard but we've only done a single.
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Originally Posted by SakeBomb Garage View Post
Originally Posted by ViperASR' timestamp='1448370948' post='23811355
[quote name='SakeBomb Garage' timestamp='1448343785' post='23811166']
[quote name='plAythiNG' timestamp='1447275128' post='23801112']
Does your mocal sandwich plate have holes for sensors??
No but you can always tap the adapter for an NPT bung very easily in a couple minutes.
Out of curiosity, where would you tap the mocal plate? I didn't think I could find a thick enough piece of aluminum to tap.

Also, props for using high quality components on the cooler. I'd already build a very similar setup, but have a local s2000 buddy who is ordering the kit, and will be helping with the install.
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We've tapped them on the side opposite where the Mocal logo (there's a pocket that allows enough depth for most sensor bungs... you can probably squeeze two in there if you try hard but we've only done a single.
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Thanks for the response!

I may pull my plate and take a look to see if I like that idea. I believe that side is pre-cooler which is good.
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Originally Posted by ViperASR View Post
Originally Posted by SakeBomb Garage' timestamp='1448418672' post='23812027
[quote name='ViperASR' timestamp='1448370948' post='23811355']
[quote name='SakeBomb Garage' timestamp='1448343785' post='23811166']
[quote name='plAythiNG' timestamp='1447275128' post='23801112']
Does your mocal sandwich plate have holes for sensors??
No but you can always tap the adapter for an NPT bung very easily in a couple minutes.
Out of curiosity, where would you tap the mocal plate? I didn't think I could find a thick enough piece of aluminum to tap.

Also, props for using high quality components on the cooler. I'd already build a very similar setup, but have a local s2000 buddy who is ordering the kit, and will be helping with the install.
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We've tapped them on the side opposite where the Mocal logo (there's a pocket that allows enough depth for most sensor bungs... you can probably squeeze two in there if you try hard but we've only done a single.
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Thanks for the response!

I may pull my plate and take a look to see if I like that idea. I believe that side is pre-cooler which is good.
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some of the metal on that side is very thin

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Originally Posted by yamahaSHO View Post
Originally Posted by SakeBomb Garage' timestamp='1448342400' post='23811156
[quote name='yamahaSHO' timestamp='1446683756' post='23795295']
Looks like a nice kit, and configurable!

Questions: What kind of temps are you seeing on the street with the 180F thermostat? I ask because with a 200F thermostat in 40-50F weather, I sat in the upper 130's while cruising to the track this past week. Also, what temps were you seeing on track with both cores in 100F weather?

Back to oil coolers and questions - We’ve put this kit through its paces on the street, backroads, and track over the course of the last 8 months, with rock solid results. Buttonwillow, Thunderhill, and Sonoma Raceways to name a few. The worst conditions this year were at Buttonwillow Raceway here in California during a particularly hot day topping out over 100 degrees F. ambient. We ran the car almost 7 sessions (lost our brakes a couple times and had to pit so it wasn’t a full 7). Sessions were 25+ minute and mid-day temps were damn hot. Temps ranged from 205 early on in the day to a max of 228 at the hottest point in the day, though were rock solid and stable around 220F most of the day. This was with a baffled oil pan, intake, exhaust, basic bolt-ons, and the 25 row cooler. Running the 19 row cooler on other days for comparison (though they were cooler) I would guestimate an average of 230F, so a rough 10 degree difference between the two cooler sizes. There’s a lot of variables but that’s roughly what we’ve found so far. If anyone wants to do some hardcore testing on these things there’s a t-shirt in it for ya but I can say from our experience that we’ve put this kit through its paces over the course of 8 months and quite a bit of track testing… we’re damn confident with it and the Setrab coolers are some of the highest efficiency out there.

So 10,000 ft view is: 220-230F depending on cooler size and track temp.
That's interesting as my 19-row Setrab with ducting runs about 255-257F on track when up in the 90's on a shorter course and 250F at 98F ambient on our longer course with two high speed straights.
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I'm not sure, as I said above these were unofficial tests where we were testing multiple parts. Most of the track days we were running the 25 row coolers, and many (besides the one day at Buttonwillow were not ridiculously hot. We're running the newest Koyo, water wetter, etc... there are a few variables and the ambient temp and track itself does play a large factor. We're happy to have customers give some more data points.

That said, are you happy with your 19 row Setrab cooling or would you move to the 25 in retrospect?
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