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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by billyblast,Aug 14 2004, 09:10 PM
Anybody know the spring rate of the H&R Sport Springs? H&R won't tell! Anybody...Anybody...
From here: http://www.gofastlab.com/s2ki/product.php?...1&cat=12&page=1

Spring rates for the H&R coils are 345 lbs/in front & 345 lbs/in rear.

They'll tell, you just have to know who to ask

EDIT: Never mind, I'm an idiot. You wanted to know about the sport sprins, not coilovers. And yes, I realize you asked this 5 months ago
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 04:51 PM
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For reference:

Mugen N0s: Front: 391
Rear: 614.7

This is slightly more rear bias compared to '00 oem, 0.63 vs 0.75 f/r.
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 07:04 PM
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my Spoon Coilovers are using the following:

Front:
14kg or 783lb

Rear:
12kg or 671lb

they rock.
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 04:02 AM
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The tein N1 use 18 front 20 rear.

I guess these can only be used on a realtaively flat racetrack?!
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by bluesaint' date='Jan 3 2005, 08:04 PM
my Spoon Coilovers are using the following:

Front:
14kg or 783lb

Rear:
12kg or 671lb

they rock.
DOes this mean they ride like a rock?

What's the actual metric when you say "kg", i.e. is kilograms/cm etc. and what is the conversion factor to lb/inch?
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 08:40 AM
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Generally it's kg/mm.

1 kg/mm = 2.2lb/(1/25.4)in
1 kg/mm = 55.88lb/in
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 09:18 AM
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kg/mm = (lb/in) / 55. Approx.

Stiff springs don't necessarily ride all that harsh. The damper will be the most important factor in determining ride quality. When I switched to my JRZs, I went up to 700 front, 750 rear and I almost wish I had gone with higher rates because the JRZs tend to give a comfortable ride and this really isn't bad at all (even for the street).

For those Tein N0s, those rates are intended for a very smooth track surface (no bumps), not a flat track. The Japanese tend to tune suspensions with very little travel and high spring rates. Out here, we tend to use softer springs and more travel with careful damper tuning to control the vehicle movements.

I'm not sure how much this is a difference in philosophy and how much can be attributed to differences in the track conditions and differences in tire carcass stiffness and resulting optimal slip angles.
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 09:19 AM
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Dammit Jason, you beat me to it. You're too fast on the track and on the board!
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 10:59 AM
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Hi reverend,

Well on the Nuerburgring Nordschleife there are a lot of bumps so I guess I should stay around the Spoon values.
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 01:41 AM
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[quote name='Ludedude' date='Jan 3 2005, 01:56 PM']

EDIT: Never mind, I'm an idiot.
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