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Mule22 11-11-2013 12:31 PM

Swapping fancy exhaust for a straight pipe?
 
Running W2W next year with NASA and thinking of removing my exhaust and bolting up a straight pipe. Am I at risk of losing hp or torque?? Any real world experience? Or numbers or even opinions?

ndogg 11-11-2013 01:49 PM

I don't have any hard evidence. But I would think you will only stand to gain both HP and TQ. I am running a straight pipe chopped right after the axle and I made 197hp on a nasa approved dyno on AP1 with everything else stock (including intake).

Driven 11-11-2013 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by Mule22 (Post 22872274)
Running W2W next year with NASA and thinking of removing my exhaust and bolting up a straight pipe. Am I at risk of losing hp or torque?? Any real world experience? Or numbers or even opinions?

https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/617...#entry15767712

Gain of 3-5hp it appears, as well as losing 40-50lbs off the back half of the car.

Mule22 11-11-2013 02:53 PM

I should clarify that I do already have a fancy Ti single exhaust 70mm blah blah..... Not sure of the name brand. Not worried about noise either just if it will affect power in any way. I'm talking about a straight pipe attached directly to the ceramic header and turned down right behind the driver. No cats, resonators, or mufflers.

Mule22 11-11-2013 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by Mule22
I should clarify that I do already have a fancy Ti single exhaust 70mm blah blah..... Not sure of the name brand. Not worried about noise either just if it will affect power in any way. I'm talking about a straight pipe attached directly to the ceramic header and turned down right behind the driver. No cats, resonators, or mufflers.

Ndogg is that what your running?

ndogg 11-11-2013 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by Mule22 (Post 22872500)

Originally Posted by Mule22
I should clarify that I do already have a fancy Ti single exhaust 70mm blah blah..... Not sure of the name brand. Not worried about noise either just if it will affect power in any way. I'm talking about a straight pipe attached directly to the ceramic header and turned down right behind the driver. No cats, resonators, or mufflers.

Ndogg is that what your running?

I have a test pipe (no cat) but the stock resonator is still there. Turn down added just before it normally splits into 2. I have it setup with a vband so I can swap between the turndown and stock mufflers with 1 bolt.

CKit 11-11-2013 03:32 PM

That's the CaptainPants mod. Used to be a standard autocross mod, but disallowed when "street" rules come into play.

robrob 11-12-2013 07:48 AM

A straight pipe is extremely loud. You may exceed noise limits and you MUST wear ear protection. I recommend at least install a straight through muffler.

My stock header with modified exhaust. I'm using one of the turn-down bolts for the hanger:
http://robrobinette.com/images/S2000...ce_exhaust.jpg



Please no snarky remarks on my welding. This is one of the first things I ever welded but it's still hanging in there.

Mule22 11-12-2013 09:46 AM

Robrob is that the header flange in the very right side of the photo. This is similar to what I'm looking to do. Any noticeable loss of power????

robrob 11-12-2013 12:58 PM

Sorry, I forgot to mention that I run a resonated straight pipe too. It's to the right of the flange in the picture.

From my website http://robrobinette.com/S2000RaceExhaust.htm
Morroso racing muffler with 2 1/2 inch inlet and outlet. The muffler flows about 70% of the exhaust straight through and 30% goes into a spiral around the primary flow. The muffler will just slip over the stock exhaust with a perfect fit which makes it easier to join and weld.

It doesn't have any insulation to burn out so it lasts a long time.


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