Tein SRC's compared
05-10-2014, 12:12 AM
#31
Originally Posted by anorexicpoodle' timestamp='1399695010' post='23153209
[quote name='andrewhake' timestamp='1399694294' post='23153194']
Do you thin it was possible your Evasive Specs were valved incorrectly? Were you the original owner? Most people seem to say that the Evasive specs are more compliant than the standard SRC so that is definitely interesting to hear. A friend of mine who has been using the standard SRCs for many years has tried out a similarly prepped car with the Evasive Spec and said he felt they were noticeably more compliant and more confidence inspiring.
Could be worth talking to Evasive to see if your dyno plots match theirs or are similar.
Do you thin it was possible your Evasive Specs were valved incorrectly? Were you the original owner? Most people seem to say that the Evasive specs are more compliant than the standard SRC so that is definitely interesting to hear. A friend of mine who has been using the standard SRCs for many years has tried out a similarly prepped car with the Evasive Spec and said he felt they were noticeably more compliant and more confidence inspiring.
Could be worth talking to Evasive to see if your dyno plots match theirs or are similar.
If it was a problem with them being valved incorrectly I don't suspect all 4 of them would have come up in such tight tolerances during the initial dynos. Guy actually commented that this was the most consistent performance he had seen out of any Tein shocks he had worked with.
I had appealed to Evasive once for some suggestions before I embarked on this project but they never released any dynos and just suggested I set them to 8/8 front and rear, which obviously from the dynos could not have accomplished what I wanted.
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It's not the cheapest, but Tein will custom valve and/or service every damper they have stateside.
haha. Why do you suspect that was necessary?Were this to be done again, all 4 would come out identically, based on the setting that you like best.
05-10-2014, 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by boyguan' timestamp='1399695312' post='23153213
[quote name='andrewhake' timestamp='1399694294' post='23153194']
Do you thin it was possible your Evasive Specs were valved incorrectly? Were you the original owner? Most people seem to say that the Evasive specs are more compliant than the standard SRC so that is definitely interesting to hear that they were valved extremely stiff. A friend of mine who has been using the standard SRCs for many years has tried out a similarly prepped car with the Evasive Spec and said he felt they were noticeably more compliant and more confidence inspiring. But again I suppose each drivers feedback is swayed by everyone else's. Maybe I will take my Evasive Specs to PSI to have them dyno'd to see if they are valved similarly to yours.
Could be worth talking to Evasive to see if your dyno plots match theirs or are similar? It seems you were successful having Tein revalve them to a setup you were happy with so that is definitely a good thing.
Do you thin it was possible your Evasive Specs were valved incorrectly? Were you the original owner? Most people seem to say that the Evasive specs are more compliant than the standard SRC so that is definitely interesting to hear that they were valved extremely stiff. A friend of mine who has been using the standard SRCs for many years has tried out a similarly prepped car with the Evasive Spec and said he felt they were noticeably more compliant and more confidence inspiring. But again I suppose each drivers feedback is swayed by everyone else's. Maybe I will take my Evasive Specs to PSI to have them dyno'd to see if they are valved similarly to yours.
Could be worth talking to Evasive to see if your dyno plots match theirs or are similar? It seems you were successful having Tein revalve them to a setup you were happy with so that is definitely a good thing.
Not true. Talk to a few people at t hill aka ivan and he will tell you he is having trouble setting up his suspension
I had the r2 and after countless track days of fiddling. I don't have them anymore
Big thanks to anorexicpoodle for taking the time and effort to do this.
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Thanks anorexicpoodle for doing this review. Very insightful and great information for the community!
Matt is right, I did drive Ivans car at T-hill earlier this year and the car was borderline undriveable on brand new evasive spec SRCs. Ivans car was running (at the time i drove it) 255/275 BFgoodrich R1 with EVS SRCs. His car is a CR model utilizing factory aero. The SRC's out of the box are very stiff making the car very non-compliant on even some of the smoothest tracks I have been to. The car was skipping a lot during mid corner, I could not simply take a turn and have the weight settle, and power out. The rear was constantly dancing around. Ive been working with Ivan to get his car easier to handle with just the shock settings and he likes the car when the settings are turned towards very soft.
I have had countless miles logged on the road, track, and canyon driving as well and they feel great. These shocks do seem to get better with age but by all means that doesn't mean its a good thing nor does it mean that's how it should be.
05-10-2014, 09:53 PM
#34
Spend your money on R&D not brand and you will be happier in the end.
05-10-2014, 10:10 PM
#35
I don't think you should be scared of aftermarket. The lesson to take away here is when you're ready to go into aftermarket shocks find a tuner you want to work with and use shocks they can work on and recommend. This ensures you get a result you like since the tuner can build them to do anything you need. Also the bigger dollar shocks aren't always the best solution.
Spend your money on R&D not brand and you will be happier in the end.
Spend your money on R&D not brand and you will be happier in the end.
05-11-2014, 03:02 AM
#36
I've talked to Guy before about redoing a PSS9 setup. I want to say it was going to be around $800 for the full revalve but considering you can get used PSS9s for under $1000 that still gives you a hell of a shock for under $2000. I've still considered doing this sometimes.
05-11-2014, 12:47 PM
#37
Originally Posted by anorexicpoodle' timestamp='1399787637' post='23154192
I don't think you should be scared of aftermarket. The lesson to take away here is when you're ready to go into aftermarket shocks find a tuner you want to work with and use shocks they can work on and recommend. This ensures you get a result you like since the tuner can build them to do anything you need. Also the bigger dollar shocks aren't always the best solution.
Spend your money on R&D not brand and you will be happier in the end.
Spend your money on R&D not brand and you will be happier in the end.
Do it!!!!
Ryan - how much was the revalve from Tein? You mentioned it was expensive, I'm just curious how much it was.
