Track day driving critiques and tips
#11
Great advice above. I don't have a ton more experience than you do, but I would suggest two possible tweaks that could help you in terms of controls. First, I would try shifting your hands down to more of a 9 & 3 position rather than the 10 & 2 you've got. Should just give you a touch more balanced control over steering input. You've got a nice relaxed grip on the wheel already though, which is great.
I would also consider adjusting how you grip the shifter. Some advice I got that has been helpful is to grip the shifter with your palm on the right (as you currently are) for first and second gear. For third and fourth, put your palm directly on top, with fingers curled over the top. And for fifth and sixth, pivot your palm from there slightly to the left, so your had is facing slightly away from you. This makes it more difficult to mis-shift, as the hand position encourages the correct gear selection. I wrote a bit more about that here: https://www.s2ki.com/forums/s2000-ra.../#post24555574. (Oh, and not a driving thing, but speaking of misshifts—I would suggest upgrading to the AP2 valve retainers if you haven't already.)
Finally, since it sounds like you've got the bug and want to do this more, I would recommend some safety mods (before worrying about any go-fast mods). Roll bar, racing seat, harness and HANS, and arm restraints (at least if you're going to run with the top and windows down, although with a soft top car should probably have them regardless).
I would also consider adjusting how you grip the shifter. Some advice I got that has been helpful is to grip the shifter with your palm on the right (as you currently are) for first and second gear. For third and fourth, put your palm directly on top, with fingers curled over the top. And for fifth and sixth, pivot your palm from there slightly to the left, so your had is facing slightly away from you. This makes it more difficult to mis-shift, as the hand position encourages the correct gear selection. I wrote a bit more about that here: https://www.s2ki.com/forums/s2000-ra.../#post24555574. (Oh, and not a driving thing, but speaking of misshifts—I would suggest upgrading to the AP2 valve retainers if you haven't already.)
Finally, since it sounds like you've got the bug and want to do this more, I would recommend some safety mods (before worrying about any go-fast mods). Roll bar, racing seat, harness and HANS, and arm restraints (at least if you're going to run with the top and windows down, although with a soft top car should probably have them regardless).
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stewpitt (04-20-2019)
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stewpitt (04-20-2019)
#13
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#14
This^^ You have a lot more in terms of grip than you are using. If you watch people who are very fast, you will see them make a lot of countersteer corrections in corners. This is obviously to a point. Correction to center is about where you are looking for, not a lot of extreme back and forth. I found it most helpful to go out with people who have similar cars who are faster. Then you can see how aggresive you can be. Also, you get that feeling in the seat of your pants when the rear tires are spinning just the right amount to propel you forward, but at the absolute limit of grip.
Great advice above. I don't have a ton more experience than you do, but I would suggest two possible tweaks that could help you in terms of controls. First, I would try shifting your hands down to more of a 9 & 3 position rather than the 10 & 2 you've got. Should just give you a touch more balanced control over steering input. You've got a nice relaxed grip on the wheel already though, which is great.
I would also consider adjusting how you grip the shifter. Some advice I got that has been helpful is to grip the shifter with your palm on the right (as you currently are) for first and second gear. For third and fourth, put your palm directly on top, with fingers curled over the top. And for fifth and sixth, pivot your palm from there slightly to the left, so your had is facing slightly away from you. This makes it more difficult to mis-shift, as the hand position encourages the correct gear selection. I wrote a bit more about that here: https://www.s2ki.com/forums/s2000-ra.../#post24555574. (Oh, and not a driving thing, but speaking of misshifts—I would suggest upgrading to the AP2 valve retainers if you haven't already.)
Finally, since it sounds like you've got the bug and want to do this more, I would recommend some safety mods (before worrying about any go-fast mods). Roll bar, racing seat, harness and HANS, and arm restraints (at least if you're going to run with the top and windows down, although with a soft top car should probably have them regardless).
I would also consider adjusting how you grip the shifter. Some advice I got that has been helpful is to grip the shifter with your palm on the right (as you currently are) for first and second gear. For third and fourth, put your palm directly on top, with fingers curled over the top. And for fifth and sixth, pivot your palm from there slightly to the left, so your had is facing slightly away from you. This makes it more difficult to mis-shift, as the hand position encourages the correct gear selection. I wrote a bit more about that here: https://www.s2ki.com/forums/s2000-ra.../#post24555574. (Oh, and not a driving thing, but speaking of misshifts—I would suggest upgrading to the AP2 valve retainers if you haven't already.)
Finally, since it sounds like you've got the bug and want to do this more, I would recommend some safety mods (before worrying about any go-fast mods). Roll bar, racing seat, harness and HANS, and arm restraints (at least if you're going to run with the top and windows down, although with a soft top car should probably have them regardless).
Thank you all for the input!
#15
John, didn't realize this was your thread - great video and lots of good advice on here. You seem to be on the right track, steady, controlled, not over-driving the car and open to feedback. I echo a lot of the advice on here, 1 addition would be: patience, it just takes time to learn the car, learn the track and build up skills. What videos of other s2000s are you looking at?
Quin
Quin
#16
John, didn't realize this was your thread - great video and lots of good advice on here. You seem to be on the right track, steady, controlled, not over-driving the car and open to feedback. I echo a lot of the advice on here, 1 addition would be: patience, it just takes time to learn the car, learn the track and build up skills. What videos of other s2000s are you looking at?
Quin
Quin
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circuitclub (04-20-2019)
#18
It's hard to compare sometimes. It seems like ap2's, which most of the videos seems to be, have just the slight advantage overall. And I believe all of the cars in the videos are running square setups. Nick mentioned he can take turn 3 flat out. I don't have the cajones to do that yet...
#19
It's hard to compare sometimes. It seems like ap2's, which most of the videos seems to be, have just the slight advantage overall. And I believe all of the cars in the videos are running square setups. Nick mentioned he can take turn 3 flat out. I don't have the cajones to do that yet...
With all that said, aero plays a big part on taming the AP1 on high speed turns. You prob noticed I ran a big J's 1700mm wing in that video
#20
If there's advice to be had out there, I wouldn't mind some as well. I have about 5 months track experience, maybe ~10 track days. This is my fastest lap from my recent visit to Chuckwalla in SoCal, but I spend most of my time in Arizona.
The car understeers pretty heavily currently. You'll see me punching the throttle and other things to try to help it rotate. Definitely appreciate any driving advice as I am trying to up my game entering TT4.
My car is a 2006 AP2
~2,750 lbs with driver
~230 whp tuned and bolt ons
kwv3 with stock springs, karcepts bars front/back
on Hankook Ventus RS4 with 4 hard days on them
stock brake setup
GT250 wing, homemade 4" birch front splitter (not pictured)