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bgoetz 07-11-2017 04:58 AM

Track hrs for BBK pads
 
I am about to do a cost benefit analysis of a BBK for HPDEs and thought a thread like this would be useful. So for those with a BBK post up the following:

-Kit
-Pad type front and cost
-estimated hrs of track time
-brake ducts (yes/no)
-rear brake kit
- pad type rear and cost
-hrs on rear pads
-estimated street driven miles

imstimpy 07-11-2017 05:29 AM

The caveat is this is all from memory and my memory is suspect due to the sleep deprivation of a new baby.

-Kit
StopTech ST-40
-Pad type front and cost
-estimated hrs of track time
Cobalt XR-2, $349, 30 hrs
Carbotech XP10, $205, TBD
-brake ducts (yes/no)
no
-rear brake kit
URGE Flow
- pad type rear and cost
-hrs on rear pads
Cobalt XR-3 $180, 15 hrs
Carbotech XP8 $162, 36 hrs
-estimated street driven miles
500?

copafeel87 07-11-2017 07:02 AM

I believe the general consensus is that a BBK will eventually pay for itself. I went from going through DTC60s every other weekend before my BBK and I currently have 4 weekends on the same set of DTC60s with my BBK.

bgoetz 07-11-2017 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by copafeel87 (Post 24264303)
I believe the general consensus is that a BBK will eventually pay for itself. I went from going through DTC60s every other weekend before my BBK and I currently have 4 weekends on the same set of DTC60s with my BBK.

I think it would be nice to have the #s though, even #s of different BBK/Pad combos. But yeah I am on Gloc R10/R8 and I have ~6hrs track time and 1000 street miles. I am at 6.3mm front and 7.1mm rear actual pad thickness, I am trying to figure out what the original thickness is, but my guess is I get 10hrs max.

bgoetz 07-11-2017 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by imstimpy (Post 24263935)
The caveat is this is all from memory and my memory is suspect due to the sleep deprivation of a new baby.

-Kit
StopTech ST-40
-Pad type front and cost
-estimated hrs of track time
Cobalt XR-2, $349, 30 hrs
Carbotech XP10, $205, TBD
-brake ducts (yes/no)
no
-rear brake kit
URGE Flow
- pad type rear and cost
-hrs on rear pads
Cobalt XR-3 $180, 15 hrs
Carbotech XP8 $162, 36 hrs
-estimated street driven miles
500?

it is odd, that your getting such long rear pad life. I have the G-Loc R-8 on the rear and I bet I wouldn't get more than 12hrs. Is it due to the BBK taking that much more of the braking load as well?

DHonovich 07-11-2017 08:47 AM

No need for cost analysis lol...BBK saves money if you track a lot...I don't know how many hours I get out of pads because it varies based on which track but I used to get 2-4 days on stock calibers and now it is 15-25 conservatively (this is with racing and not hpde btw).

Chibo 07-11-2017 09:15 AM

Does the Urge rear brake upgrade make a significant difference by itself?

imstimpy 07-11-2017 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by bgoetz (Post 24264600)
it is odd, that your getting such long rear pad life. I have the G-Loc R-8 on the rear and I bet I wouldn't get more than 12hrs. Is it due to the BBK taking that much more of the braking load as well?

I experienced significantly more life from the Carbotech XP8 pads than the Cobalt XR-3 pads. Can't say why as the XP8 started used and abused before my BBK and they still outlasted the XR-3 by a long ways.


Originally Posted by copafeel87 (Post 24264303)
I believe the general consensus is that a BBK will eventually pay for itself. I went from going through DTC60s every other weekend before my BBK and I currently have 4 weekends on the same set of DTC60s with my BBK.

I used up a all of Carbotech XP10s and half of the XP8s in a single weekend, or 6 hours of track time, at Circuit of the Americas when on my stock braking setup padded with XP10/XP8. I've been back a few times with upgraded brakes and the pad life is an order of magnitude better. YMMV.

bgoetz 07-11-2017 10:04 AM

How often are you guys replacing rotor rings? That is a decent cost regardless what kit you choose.

imstimpy 07-12-2017 04:22 AM

I keep thinking "after this next day, I'm replacing my front rings". I still haven't yet... I'm probably at 40 hrs of track time on the ST-40 rings, many many autox runs, and a few thousand street miles too. I've had micro cracks for awhile now, but no fissures.


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