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Old 08-08-2017, 08:46 AM
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Old 02-04-2018, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Tougefactory
GS-1: For street or autocross only. It's a quiet low dusting compound with non-corrosive brake dust. Super easy on the rotors and lasts a really long time. the owner of Gloc has gotten about 70,000 miles out of a set for my own car, and his wife got 100k on hers.

R6: Engineered for autocross, but it can be used for daily driving if you don't mind some dust and noise. Noise only happens when you apply light pedal pressure when coming to a stop (anything below 15mph or so). If you get on them hard they will NOT make any noise. If you lightly tap on the brakes on the highway or at speed (above 20mph or so) they will NOT make any noise. The stopping power on the street is mind blowing! If your passenger doesn't have their seat belt on they will end up kissing the windshield. lol. However, this compound is NOT meant for track use, because it has a low temp ceiling and the driver will experience fade.

R8: G-Loc's most versatile compound that they offer. Meaning, you can daily drive with it, autocross, and go to your HPDE events and never change pads. It's easy on the rotors when cold and when hot. It has great bite when cold and even better bite when hot. Non-corrosive brake dust. It's one of our best wearing (longest lasting) compounds. Great for beginners.

R10: This compound is about a 20%-25% increase in bite and torque over the R8. You can still drive on the street with it but it will make A LOT of noise on the street. That being said, it still has good cold bite and a ton more when it gets hot. This can be used successfully by beginners and advanced drivers. R10 has a ton of modulation, trail braking ability, and a very smooth release. It's not as easy on the rotors as the R8, but it's WAY more easier on the rotors than anything from Hawk, Project Mu, PFC, EBC, Mintex, Porterfield, Endless, Pagid, and Raybestos. R10 has more modulation than anything by any of those previous companies as well. Because of how hard the S2000's are on brakes this may be the best place to start for anyone.

R12: This is their most versatile compound for race/track day cars. About a 20% increase in bite and torque vs the R10. You can still drive on the street with it requires a tiny bit of heat to start working properly and it will make A LOT of noise on the street. That being said, it still has good cold bite and a ton more when it gets hot. Great for intermediate and the advance drivers. More rotor friendly than anything from Hawk, Project Mu, PFC, EBC, Mintex, Porterfield, Endless, Pagid, and Raybestos. This compound can work on a Trans-Am car (not ideal, but it works), Corvette, Mustang, Viper, S2000, Spec Miata, down to a Lotus Elise. And it works well on all of them. It can take a good amount of heat. It has a little less modulation than the R10 compound, and it will wear at a faster rate than both the R10 and R8.

R16: This compound has some serious bite and torque. It requires some heat to start working, but the performance is amazing. This is meant for S2000's, 350Z/370Z, Mustang, Corvette, Viper, 911, Cayman, with a really aggressive street tire or a true r-compound tire (like a Hoosier R7 or something like that). This compound can only go on something lighter weight like a spec miata, lotus elise with they are running true r-comp tires.

R18: R-Comp tires ONLY! This compound takes a lot of heat to start working, but once it does it's magical....seriously! This compound has a shit ton of bite and torque. Great modulation and a smooth release (once you have enough heat into it). If you run this compound without getting enough heat into it, then it will be VERY aggressive on the rotors. There is NO pad on the market by any other manufacturer that has as high of a coefficient of friction as the R18 does.

With that being said I currently Run R16 up front on my Stoptech Brake kit and R12 on stock rear calipers. I have a special discount for the tracking community as well so feel free to PM me if you are interested.
I have been running Carbo xp10 front and xp8 rear with stock rotors on my 2001 Honda S2000. I am running 200 tread wear 245/40/17 tires. The car has front Brake ducts with oem calipers. Would the R16 front and R12 rear be a similar setup? Do you have a suggestion on where to order the pads from?
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Old 04-03-2018, 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by ManningP
I have been running Carbo xp10 front and xp8 rear with stock rotors on my 2001 Honda S2000. I am running 200 tread wear 245/40/17 tires. The car has front Brake ducts with oem calipers. Would the R16 front and R12 rear be a similar setup? Do you have a suggestion on where to order the pads from?
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I think the G-Loc numbering matches Carbotech, so the equivalent of xp10/xp8 would be R10/R8.

I'm looking for a set to use with square 255/40/17 RE-71Rs when I take my STR S2000 for track days. (I disintegrated a set of HP+'s last weekend, so I'm looking for an upgrade as well as adding ducting...) Thinking R10/R8 would probably be about right for me. What I'm wondering is whether I can swap them out with Stoptech Sports or whatever else for autocross on the same rotors or if I'd need to go with the G-Loc street or autocross pads.
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XP10/XP8 felt good, stopped well, faded progressively, smeared, and wore aggressively on track, whether on OEM brakes or BBK brakes. They are not up to the task without ducting. Danny's (G-Loc) recommendation was R16/R10 for my application and I will be trying them in two weeks.
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Originally Posted by Nate Tempest
I think the G-Loc numbering matches Carbotech, so the equivalent of xp10/xp8 would be R10/R8.

I'm looking for a set to use with square 255/40/17 RE-71Rs when I take my STR S2000 for track days. (I disintegrated a set of HP+'s last weekend, so I'm looking for an upgrade as well as adding ducting...) Thinking R10/R8 would probably be about right for me. What I'm wondering is whether I can swap them out with Stoptech Sports or whatever else for autocross on the same rotors or if I'd need to go with the G-Loc street or autocross pads.
If you find out let me know too. I'm running the Stoptech sports now which generally fit the bill but I'd like a more aggressive option as well for spirited driving or track (if I ever go). I have a Stoptech ST40 kit up front and just considered R8 all around. I've also just considered trying the R8 all around and running them all the time. Based on description it sounds like they are more than capable of handing street duty.
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Originally Posted by Nate Tempest
I think the G-Loc numbering matches Carbotech, so the equivalent of xp10/xp8 would be R10/R8.

I'm looking for a set to use with square 255/40/17 RE-71Rs when I take my STR S2000 for track days. (I disintegrated a set of HP+'s last weekend, so I'm looking for an upgrade as well as adding ducting...) Thinking R10/R8 would probably be about right for me. What I'm wondering is whether I can swap them out with Stoptech Sports or whatever else for autocross on the same rotors or if I'd need to go with the G-Loc street or autocross pads.
Originally Posted by //steve\\
If you find out let me know too. I'm running the Stoptech sports now which generally fit the bill but I'd like a more aggressive option as well for spirited driving or track (if I ever go). I have a Stoptech ST40 kit up front and just considered R8 all around. I've also just considered trying the R8 all around and running them all the time. Based on description it sounds like they are more than capable of handing street duty.
I've run ST-40s and URGE Flow on my S2000 since 2015 with a variety of square DOT tires on many tracks in Texas and have been autocrossing the S2000 in STR since 2010. I've used and gone through quite a few brake pads at this point.

XP10/R10 and XP8/R8 fit the bill of autox, spirited driving, novice track day pads; the same applies to the StopTech Street pads and Ferodo DS2500s. All feel phenomenal, but will smear, fade, and wear quickly when pushed on track by a driver with some talent. Of those, both sets of XP10/XP8s were quite noisy when used on the street whereas StopTech/DS2500s were dead silent. I would not bother with XP10/XP8 as a "track" pad if you already have the StopTech Sports- all are a hybrid street/light track pad. I did technically get four track days (two of which at Circuit of the Americas) on my set of XP10/XP8s, smearing every session, progressively fading earlier and earlier each session, before I concluded they'd lost all heat tolerance despite 2/3 life remaining.
Old 04-04-2018, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by imstimpy
I've run ST-40s and URGE Flow on my S2000 since 2015 with a variety of square DOT tires on many tracks in Texas and have been autocrossing the S2000 in STR since 2010. I've used and gone through quite a few brake pads at this point.

XP10/R10 and XP8/R8 fit the bill of autox, spirited driving, novice track day pads; the same applies to the StopTech Street pads and Ferodo DS2500s. All feel phenomenal, but will smear, fade, and wear quickly when pushed on track by a driver with some talent. Of those, both sets of XP10/XP8s were quite noisy when used on the street whereas StopTech/DS2500s were dead silent. I would not bother with XP10/XP8 as a "track" pad if you already have the StopTech Sports- all are a hybrid street/light track pad. I did technically get four track days (two of which at Circuit of the Americas) on my set of XP10/XP8s, smearing every session, progressively fading earlier and earlier each session, before I concluded they'd lost all heat tolerance despite 2/3 life remaining.
I wonder if this would change with brake ducting (which I'm planning to install). I'm buying pads specifically for the track, so I don't mind going with a more aggressive compound; just don't want to if it's not going to be necessary, since assuming neither one is overheated, the less aggressive pads should wear less quickly (on both the pad and rotor). My understanding is that ducting should be good for at least a few hundred degrees difference in peak temperatures.

Also, I understand why staggering pads is desirable when moving to a square tire setup, but I'm curious why some people go with so much of a stagger, like R16/R10, or R12/R8. I would think that would put the bias more to the front than you'd want, since even a single level difference in pads biases by ~20%, which should be more than the traction difference you get from moving to square tires, I would think (is that wrong?)
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Originally Posted by imstimpy
XP10/XP8 felt good, stopped well, faded progressively, smeared, and wore aggressively on track, whether on OEM brakes or BBK brakes. They are not up to the task without ducting. Danny's (G-Loc) recommendation was R16/R10 for my application and I will be trying them in two weeks.
I'm happy to report the R16/R10 combination worked very well for me this past weekend at MSR-Houston. I ran them with an ST-40/Flow setup. Despite Danny's recommendation for ducts, I have none. My longest session was 60 minutes and they worked perfectly lap after lap with only the slightest of smearing. Balance was great, initial bite and modulation was typical Carbotech (great), and they have more stopping power than I'd expected even cold.
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Got my R10 front, R8 rear installed and just bedded them in. (Just establishing a transfer layer, as I went for the pre-bedded pads option.) Even cold, in 51 degree ambient (so theoretically slightly below operating range for the R10s) the bite and pedal feel were both great. Also, fwiw there was no noise, although that might change. There should definitely be fine for autocross. As for the track, we'll see. I've got rear brake ducts now. Still thinking about the fronts, but I picked up a couple of these to cool the fronts down between sessions: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-18...3320/205022215

If you're in Canada, Frank at Ewald Performance stocks G-Loc (and Castrol SRF) fwiw. Needed them quick so that was handy. Next time will cross-shop him with TougeFactory...
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