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Old 04-20-2016, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by thomsbrain View Post
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They aren't that great nor were they weren't that great as an OE for the Camaro either. There's much better options for a track/street tire.
Are you confusing these with another P Zero? 1.06 g sustained (Car and Driver) in a stock street car that weighs 3900 pounds is pretty great. McLaren claims 1.8 g sustained in the P1 hypercar on these tires.

I haven't tried them, but they are supposed to be pretty good, and they don't really have much price premium at all in the 255/40/17 size over 200TW tires.
This. These grip like a 60TW tire, and are OE equipment on a few track-only and extreme performance cars.
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and they don't really have much price premium at all in the 255/40/17 size over 200TW tires.
This is what surprised me the most. I would have assumed a pretty high premium for these. Michelin offers the Pilot Sport Cup 2 in 255/40/17 now too but they are obscenely expensive.
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and they don't really have much price premium at all in the 255/40/17 size over 200TW tires.
This is what surprised me the most. I would have assumed a pretty high premium for these. Michelin offers the Pilot Sport Cup 2 in 255/40/17 now too but they are obscenely expensive.
... and no good either.

I have personal experience that the Rival S and the RE71R both run toe to toe with the Pilot Sport Cup 2 and the NT01. The PSC2 wears out extremely fast while the NT01 is wearing nicely after four track days. The Rival S lasted 5-6 track days with autocrossing and the RE71R is probably good for 4-5 track days with autocrossing. So far, on a 991 GT3, the Dunlop Sport Maxx, Trefeo R, and the PSC2 all wear out in about three days.
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Im looking at these as well. NASA puts them 1 point above the RE-71R and even points with the RC1, which is saying something.
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Im looking at these as well. NASA puts them 1 point above the RE-71R and even points with the RC1, which is saying something.
Actually, the 2016 ttb-f calculator puts the RC-1 , re71r and nt01 at the same points, and the Trofeo R 1 point higher, same as the proxes RR. Sounds like the NT01 are still the best value just for how long they last and $180/tire? Although if the Trofeo can last almost as long it might be a tempting option, but I have no experience with them.
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I have a set of 265/30-19 for my M3 and will be doing my own testing coming up here. I've been trying to get a set of 255/40-17 for my S2000 since I have a lot more tire data with that car but they have been on backorder for a couple months and Tire Rack can't tell me when more are due to arrive

They are meaty in person- the 265s for the M3 are realistically a 285. I like to imagine the guys at Pirelli's motorsport division were giggling amongst themselves as they decided to label this a "265" . Here is a photo comparing it to a 275 RE-71R:
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Originally Posted by Pimpo View Post
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Im looking at these as well. NASA puts them 1 point above the RE-71R and even points with the RC1, which is saying something.
Actually, the 2016 ttb-f calculator puts the RC-1 , re71r and nt01 at the same points, and the Trofeo R 1 point higher, same as the proxes RR. Sounds like the NT01 are still the best value just for how long they last and $180/tire? Although if the Trofeo can last almost as long it might be a tempting option, but I have no experience with them.
Ah true...I stand corrected https://nasa-assets.s3.amazonaws.com...cial_Rules.pdf
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Originally Posted by andrewhake View Post
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and they don't really have much price premium at all in the 255/40/17 size over 200TW tires.
This is what surprised me the most. I would have assumed a pretty high premium for these. Michelin offers the Pilot Sport Cup 2 in 255/40/17 now too but they are obscenely expensive.
You're getting lucky in that size then. In sizes for my Cayman, they're all ~$1600/set.
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Originally Posted by SpeedFreaksUSA View Post
I have a set of 265/30-19 for my M3 and will be doing my own testing coming up here. I've been trying to get a set of 255/40-17 for my S2000 since I have a lot more tire data with that car but they have been on backorder for a couple months and Tire Rack can't tell me when more are due to arrive

They are meaty in person- the 265s for the M3 are realistically a 285. I like to imagine the guys at Pirelli's motorsport division were giggling amongst themselves as they decided to label this a "265" . Here is a photo comparing it to a 275 RE-71R:
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Interesting haha. I wonder what size the "255" would actually be.
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Originally Posted by andrewhake View Post
Originally Posted by SpeedFreaksUSA' timestamp='1461279080' post='23945027
I have a set of 265/30-19 for my M3 and will be doing my own testing coming up here. I've been trying to get a set of 255/40-17 for my S2000 since I have a lot more tire data with that car but they have been on backorder for a couple months and Tire Rack can't tell me when more are due to arrive

They are meaty in person- the 265s for the M3 are realistically a 285. I like to imagine the guys at Pirelli's motorsport division were giggling amongst themselves as they decided to label this a "265" . Here is a photo comparing it to a 275 RE-71R:
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Interesting haha. I wonder what size the "255" would actually be.
I'd probably wager a guess and say they're around 275mm. I might try these next, they're going to look hilarious lol.
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