00' S2K vs. E46 M3
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Originally Posted by no_really,Dec 27 2006, 07:19 PM
ah-hahahahahahaha!
Thanks, I needed a good laugh
An E46 M3 is more than a "tad" faster than an S2000. It's quite a bit faster. The old E36 M3's were even with the S2000, but the newer E46 cars have over 90 hp on the old ones. I'm not sure how anyone can possibly argue that makes them only a "tad" bit quicker. They are on average going to run 4-5 mph faster in a 1/4 mile, and get there close to a second faster. That's not a "tad bit," that's tearing the paint off an S2000.
Sure, sure, there are people who have little experience racing, but bragging about beating a car driven well below its potential is not bragging, it's letting the world know you are a fool.
I'm not sure what makes the E46 M3 "older technology." IIRC, the E46 M3 didn't come out until 2001, which makes it, well, newer than the S2000. And it isn't like VTEC hasn't been around for over a decade now. Hardly cutting edge stuff there :/ And someone driving a roadster shaped like the S2000 shouldn't be casting any stones at the aero of the E46 M3's. If you don't want to spend the money on one, fine. But it is a fine car that is superior to the S2000 in many categories.
According to you, I'm "really uneducated." I'm not sure why you'd resort to insulting people for stating facts.
It's not polite
Thanks, I needed a good laugh
An E46 M3 is more than a "tad" faster than an S2000. It's quite a bit faster. The old E36 M3's were even with the S2000, but the newer E46 cars have over 90 hp on the old ones. I'm not sure how anyone can possibly argue that makes them only a "tad" bit quicker. They are on average going to run 4-5 mph faster in a 1/4 mile, and get there close to a second faster. That's not a "tad bit," that's tearing the paint off an S2000.Sure, sure, there are people who have little experience racing, but bragging about beating a car driven well below its potential is not bragging, it's letting the world know you are a fool.
I'm not sure what makes the E46 M3 "older technology." IIRC, the E46 M3 didn't come out until 2001, which makes it, well, newer than the S2000. And it isn't like VTEC hasn't been around for over a decade now. Hardly cutting edge stuff there :/ And someone driving a roadster shaped like the S2000 shouldn't be casting any stones at the aero of the E46 M3's. If you don't want to spend the money on one, fine. But it is a fine car that is superior to the S2000 in many categories.
According to you, I'm "really uneducated." I'm not sure why you'd resort to insulting people for stating facts.
It's not polite 
. I am just saying its not that fast and I have test driven them and was not impressed and FYI they came out and were available in 2000 not 2001. Same age regardless. 
Its still a tad bit faster in my eyes and always will be. Its funny how even owners will argue they are so fast. Reality check kids, they are not and the E46 is the boxy older style, believe it or not. The new M 3 series is out or coming out so yeah that makes the E46 old, and boxy, thats a fact.
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Originally Posted by ASMspec,Dec 29 2006, 12:11 AM
I am stating my observation and so many people always jump to assumptions . I am just saying its not that fast and I have test driven them and was not impressed and FYI they came out and were available in 2000 not 2001. Same age regardless.
Its still a tad bit faster in my eyes and always will be. Its funny how even owners will argue they are so fast. Reality check kids, they are not and the E46 is the boxy older style, believe it or not. The new M 3 series is out or coming out so yeah that makes the E46 old, and boxy, thats a fact.
. I am just saying its not that fast and I have test driven them and was not impressed and FYI they came out and were available in 2000 not 2001. Same age regardless. Its still a tad bit faster in my eyes and always will be. Its funny how even owners will argue they are so fast. Reality check kids, they are not and the E46 is the boxy older style, believe it or not. The new M 3 series is out or coming out so yeah that makes the E46 old, and boxy, thats a fact.
and yes I drove an M3 and it is faster then an S2K, not waayyyyyy faster but faster.
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Originally Posted by ASMspec,Dec 29 2006, 12:13 AM
Sorry my friend that car just doesnt do it for me an I disagree with you on being the best looking car on the road today. I can honestly name 40+ cars that look a few times better than this older E46.
I am not here to argue. I just dont like the car since its, number one, not that fast, and number two older looking interior and boxy exterior.
I am not an M3 fan. Just leave it at that. Thanks.
I am not here to argue. I just dont like the car since its, number one, not that fast, and number two older looking interior and boxy exterior.
I am not an M3 fan. Just leave it at that. Thanks.
And for the record, I said "one of the" not "the" best looking cars on the road today.
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Originally Posted by biglou,Dec 29 2006, 11:11 AM
I dont understand how you say honda hasnt upped the bar on anything. How many other cars out there rev to 9k from the factory?How many other 4 cylinders put out the horsepower the s2k does na? I dont know of many. Yeah it might not be the greatest car on earth but neither is the m3. I just picked up my s2k and i think its a blast to drive. Ive owned a c5 Zo6, 06 350z, 400 whp rsx, and i still think driving the s2k is fun. And i like M3's but they are put on a pedestal too much and in my opinion are a little overrated. With that being said i would still drive one if someone paid for the upkeep. Not trying to argue but fanboys get annoying
I think it's quite clear that Honda hasn't upped the bar with performance cars. They've had the same car for 7 years now, nearly completely unrevised. Same goes for the NSX. Great car, a masterpiece, when it came out, but keeping nearly the same car in production for 15 years....something doesn't seem right with that picture. By the end of its run, it had gone from revolutionary to ordinary. And the same thing is happening with the S2000.
Honda is more concerned about pleasing the masses. And that's fine. They're quite good at it.
As for other cars, one in particular comes to mind...the RX8. And it's even cheaper than an S2000. The rpms are nice, but it'd be nice if you didn't have to live in the stratospheres of your car's rev range on a day to day basis.
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Its WAY overrated and anyone that tells you they are WAY faster than an S2000 are really uneducated.
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Damn I wasnt aware the BMW v-10 revs to over 8K!!!! Thats insane, I really need one of these. All things being equal, the E46 M3 is faster than a S2000. It also accepts mods alot better so your money goes further when modding. When it comes to street situations there are so many things one can't predict, so as they say "Anything that can go wrong will go wrong" which in this case something went wrong for the M3 since he lost!
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It also accepts mods alot better so your money goes further when modding
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Originally Posted by derryck,Dec 29 2006, 12:07 PM
My M3 has very minor mods and traps around 109-110mph...plz show me an S2000 without FI that traps in that range. Otherwise...yes, the E46 is significantly quicker...stock for stock it traps around 6mph faster which is a sizable difference. The current production S2000 doesn't rev to 9000 RPM's but BMW's V10 revs to 8250...give credit where credit is due.