justind

no doubt! lol just always so damn broke

GeniusTek

They are both good drivers.

20aeman

Meh. Racing to 130 is racing an S2000s race. A gti will have high egts at extended WOT and pull timing/shut down the throttle body.

Better to just pick a speed where you know the S2k is either in the low end of VTAK or has to shift immediately. Narrow powerbands FTL.

Rev. WAR

[QUOTE=20aeman,Nov 26 2010, 11:57 PM] Meh.

Disgustipated

The GTI actually has a narrower powerband than an AP1 S2000. Boost dies at what... 5.5k RPM? So it has like a 2k RPM powerband starting at 3.5-4k RPM? Obviously can be fixed with tuning but so can an S2000.

AP1 S2000 can have a powerband of 4k-9k RPM with a tune and pick up a ton of midrange. Gotta love how GTI fanboys mistake low-end torque for true power. Low weight, high revving, well geared race car FTW vs boosted econobox FWD'er.

blessed

Not all 2.0L motors are created equally!

I always loved how our motors still being naturally aspirated can out perform their tuned turbo-2.0L's. Albeit on a stock turbo the size of a baseball.

They make their power everywhere but where you would want it most.. IN A RACE!


And then they want to talk about our small powerband..


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IAmTheRealAsif

In my Si days I would hear so much crap from GTI owners. Granted my Si didn't really have any engine mods a couple of my buddies have Si's and they would beat GTI's easy. They talk about hellaflush...then think their car is functional haha.

Some GTI owners not all...I know a few good ones

20aeman

Lolcats. Now we have S2000 fanboys claiming they have wide powerbands.

Here is what the average turbo VW dyno looks like (an inferior 1.8t no less with a chip and turboback):



vs.



And the S2000 has a wider powerband? Who cares about where boost drops off? It's about area under the curve in regards to horsepower.

GeniusTek

It does matter where the power is look at where all the tq is right around 3.5. When doing a roll in 3rd they are well in the 4k range where a lot of the tq has dropped off which makes it almost obsolete. Tq is the only thing that helps VW's but its never where they need it like past 4k after that it's all hp which they don't seem to have that much of. My friends mkv has shit loads of tq down low but nothing up top, after 5.7k his turbo dies and starts to slow down. Good thing he knows how to drive and shifts at the right points. Thats probably why he wins all his races because morons think bring it to redline always helps. He race another kid with a mkv GLI with all the same mods and killed him because the other kid wasn't shifting at the right points, going way past the power points.

20aeman

No, you couldn't be more wrong. Torque doesn't matter! Only horsepower does.

That shitty 1.8t makes 200+whp FOR 2000 RPMS. You'd be fastest by just shifting at redline, as it gives you constant peak horsepower through the entire rev range.

The S2000 makes 200+whp FOR 800 RPMS. Yet it has the wider powerband. lol.