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Old Oct 27, 2001 | 09:14 AM
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Ok My question or concern is this:

I just read the following article
http://www.ntpog.org/mods/fifth-afc/ecu.shtml

With the recent post about having to readjust the FPR after each dyno (I think it was Prolene that posted that) now I am wondering if getting a V-AFC or an FPR is worth the trouble unless there is some work around for our ECU.

Any thoughts?
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Old Oct 27, 2001 | 11:58 AM
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I have a V-AFC and I think it is definently worth it. I went from 199 whp to 213 whp and now get about 30 mpg on the highway. It makes a noticable difference in torque too. It only got set the one time and so far the settings are the same. It's pretty low maintenance. I highly recommend it
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Old Oct 27, 2001 | 12:03 PM
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its not an either or situation.

just get both and have it dyno tuned or else you'll probably risk reducing the horses under the hood.
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Old Oct 27, 2001 | 01:00 PM
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I heard the FPR doesnt make anything on the Dyno. The VTEC controller VAFC does make anywhere from 8-15 Dynoed HP. THATS A FACT!
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Old Oct 27, 2001 | 05:52 PM
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Anything about the ecu undoing what the V-AFC is tweaking? More hp is good!
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Old Oct 27, 2001 | 06:01 PM
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Yeah that is what I am afraid of after reading that article. That the ECU will undo what the V-AFC does.

I know that the V-AFC is dyno proven and that means a lot.


Is there anyone who has taken their car back to the same dyno to see if the ECU adjusted to the V-AFC.

Also I have done some reading and my concerns could be false due to the fact that the V-AFC intercepts the signals from the ECU so the ECU is irrelevant.

OR

I could be totally wrong and the V-AFC alters the signals going INTO the ECU and therefore the ECU would be able to adjust. I sure hope someone smarter than me chimes in

My brain hurts!
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Old Oct 27, 2001 | 07:29 PM
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Contrary to popular belief, our ECU is not intelligent. It doesn't learn a mod and adjust accordingly. It does no compensate for the V-AFC. there was a post a little while ago about this ame thing and it pretty much turned into a yeah it does/no it doesn't/yeah it does/no it... and on and on. I'm telling you that I know first hand as I have a V-AFC and I have heard from some higher ups at honda. Our cars are not that exotic. We don't have cool stuff like that (thank god). If for some reason you get a V-AFC and think that the ECU is compensating over time just pull the circuit breaker for about 15-20 seconds and that will reset everything back to normal. Good luck with the V-AFC. It is a very worth while purchase
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Old Oct 27, 2001 | 08:13 PM
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VTECnology ...... where can I get one, what does it cost, and is it simple to install ??? After it is installed, to use V-AFC do you control it with a dial on the dash board?? It sounds like it sends false readings to the ECU causing the ECU to lean out the mixture. Any explaination would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Old Oct 27, 2001 | 08:30 PM
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you can get a good deal at autocarparts.com
Read the post at https://www.s2ki.com/forums/showthread.php?...&threadid=33029 also. It talks about pricing and some other issues. It is kind of a pain to use at first as you really have to tune it on a dyno because no two engines react the same to identical settings. It does a lot more than just lean out the air/fuel ratio. It is worth it though and if you do get one I'd be happy to post my settings as a good starting point.
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Old Oct 27, 2001 | 08:33 PM
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also, check this place out for good prices
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