Fraud?
 

I have put my s2k on autotrader for quite some time and i've been innundated with emails from people wanting to buy my car. However, recently I've recieved emails from this two gentlemen that seems kinda fishy because they are so identical. I'll post them and tell me what you guys think. Viper if you could leave some feedback being that you seem the wisest! thanks!

Heres the first one

Hi _ _ _,
Wishing you top of the moment and thankyou very much for agreeing to
sell your car for my client at $21,700.Sincerely i owe you
one.Moreso
am pleased to inform you that i have succeded in ealing this deal
with
my client .
I invited him over to my office this morning and we spoke for over an
hour after which he accepted the price and in this perspective be
informed that your payment shall get to you in a couple of days.
He has instructed me to inform you that payment will get to you in a
cashier check of $27,700USD which includes
(the cost of your car, pre-shipping charges and company's
commission).
Due to company's policy this check has to be made out to you in this
amount because company policy only allows full payment on one cashier
check, so you are
required to deduct cost of your car $21,700 when payment gets to you
and
refund balance of $6,000 to my shipper via western union money
transfer
to enable the
shipper to offset shipping charges, After payment has reached you and
balance sent back to the shipper, shipper's agent will come for
inspection of the car,
test drive the car, after which the car will be moved to a prepaid
shipper to be shipped to my customer's destination. While Title
papers
and other necessary
documents will be signed and picked up by the agent.
I already have so much confidence in you and am
convinced that you could be trusted with such a huge sum of money.

Please Confirm this and provide your FULL NAME,
ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBERS for payment to be delivered
to you in a couple of days.

Cheers and have a splendid day as i await your reply ASAP.
I look forwa rd to having a wonderful business relationship with you.

JOHN MANN.
CEO, autobrokers65@yahoo.com

Second one

Greetings.......

Am a procument agent living in Canada and he said that I should inform you that the
payment will get to you in a cashier check of ($28,000
usd) which he made out before traveling to japan yesterday for a business trip.

You are required to deduct cost of your Vehicle
[($20,999 usd)] when the payment gets to you and
refund balance of [ $7,001 usd ] to my customer's
shipping agent through International Money Gram
Transfer , for the shipping agent to be able to offset
shipping charges and any other related charges.

After payment has reached you and balance sent back to
his shipping agent - the shipper will contact the
PICKUP AGENT-who will come for the pick up of the
vehicle to be shipped to my client.While the title
papers and any other documents invole will be sent by
yo u to my client via FedEx courier service.THE PICK UP
AGENT WILL BE TAKING CARE OF THE FEDEX EXPENSES AND
ANY OTHER COMMISSION CHARGES.

PICKUP NOTICE: MY CLIENT INSTRUCTED THAT THE PICKUP
AGENT WILL BE COMING TO YOUR AREA OF LOCATION WITH
SOMEONE WHO IS GOING TO TEST DRIVE THE VEHICLE AND
CHECK THE RECENT CONDITION OF THE VEHICLE .AS SOON AS
YOU RECEIVE THE PAYMENT PACKAGE;

NOTE: MY CLIENT ADVISED THAT YOU ARE EXPECTED TO
DEDUCT THE TRANSFER CHARGES FROM THE REMAINING BALANCE
YOU ARE TO TRANSFER TO THE SHIPPER VIA INTERNATIONAL
MONEY GRAM TRANSFER;

Please Confirm this and provide the following details
below for check payment to be delivered to you via
FedEx courier.

PAYMENT INFORMATION:
1.LEGAL NAME IN FULL.......
2.ADDRESS..............
3.DIRECT PHONE NUMBER(S)...........

Regards.
Lee


It seems like no individuals want to buy my car, its always "clients" or "agents"? This is the first time i'm selling my car privately and was just wondering if anyone else had an occurence like this. Maybe this is just coindence or maybe i'm just naive? but feedback is greatly appreciated

Scam

And a few weeks later you will find out that the cashier's check was a forgery and you will be out the 'difference' that you sent back to them.

It's actually a pretty common scam that's making the rounds.

YEP, IT'S A SCAM

It's a scam for sure! I was recently burned on something similar. cost me $1000.
:banghead:
The check they send will be no good and you'll be screwed over just like I was.

yeah it's a scam, it almost happen to someone at honda-tech.com

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=641985

You will be out more than the difference. What they do is, they send you a check for more than the amount, and you fund the difference back to them, they have a general account at the bank the check is from (usually a stolen account with applicable funds) so the check initially clears and you think you have your money.

You then sign the title to the car and they drive it away with the difference check which they quickly cash, and a few days later they find the check was a fraud.

Your out the difference and your car, they have the signed title to the car, and they ship it out of the country where it can never be recovered.

The worst part about it is insurance companies don't cover loss due to fraudulent payment and the person who "bought" the car from you dissapears with no paper trail and your money and your car.

Don't deal with these people! if anything try to get an adress from them (they probably won't give it to you) and file a complaint or a fraud claim with the proper authorities.

The wonderful thing, and the worst thing about the internet is anonimity

GOOD LUCK!

:iagree:


SCAM. They'll send you the fake check and after you cash and send them 6 grand, your bank will come back to you to tell you that your check bounce. It take a month to really clear a check. STAY AWAY. :mad:

I knew something was fishy, thanks a lot guys!