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S2000 Wavetrac Differential interest?
Would someone be interested in a Wavetrac Differential for the S2000? Currently they have no S2000 in the shop but if 30 or more would be interested, price round about 1500$, they would build one. If not to complicated, price could be less.Anyone interested in this? Besides me
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Benefit? Purpose? Links???
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Gear differential that supposedly addresses zero load conditions found in ones like Torsen.
https://www.wavetrac.net/pages/about-us |
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I certainly would. I put one on my Integra GSR and it's rock solid!!
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Originally Posted by Nemerson
(Post 25141228)
I certainly would. I put one on my Integra GSR and it's rock solid!!
Let's hope and see who else will join us. |
Maybe a different question is why pick this Wavetrac over the various many other options like OS-Giken, ATS, Kaaz, Cusco, etc.? All of those are known to perform and do well on track, alleviating issues known to plague to OEM-torsen unit.
btw, just curious. I'm not in the market. I blew up my diff at the beginning of this year and went with a standard OS-Giken unit. |
If I'm not mistaken, OS-Giken, ATS, Kaaz, Cusco etc. are Clutch Type Differential for track mainly and not Torsen Differential. All "regular" Torsen have the zero load issue. Wavetrac eliminates that. Means, no Snapoversteer due to misuse by driver or bad rainy conditions. Wavetrac can be used on track too. No adjustments or maintenance. But I guess for track only, clutch type is better.
For me, as I drive winding roads, pretty sporty, it makes more sense, and it adds some extra safety. My S2000 is stock, but on winding Roads I do chase my buddy in his 718 Spyder RS. This would give the little extra, not only for speed, but permanent stability, no matter what. I hope this helps a bit. |
Since the ones trying to organize the interest failed to, here is some actual ibfo about how it works.
scroll to How Its Different Basically, it appears to be a torsen, with a mating wave shaped device between each axle (diagram in link above). When inside wheel lifts, creating the zero load condition that plagues torsen diff such as our stock one, sending all torque into oblivion to the wheel in the air, its that speed difference that actives The Wave. The mating wave shaped thingies spinning at different speeds causes them to move apart as one wave tries to ride up the ramp of the other. That creates some artificial load, eliminating the zero load situation, so torque can go to to loaded wheel. Problem cleverly solved. It might be tempting to think the torque will easily overcome the meager force created by The Wave. But that isn't how ot works. If a torsen has a 2.5:1 bias,it can apply 2.5x as much torque to the loaded wheel. So long as there is 'any' load at all on wheel in air, this will work. The problem isn't when there is little load, its when its 0. The Wave makes it not 0. Next question, what about going around a normal corner. Both wheels on ground. Axles gonna spin at different speeds. Thats gonna force The Waves to be bumpin and grindin on each other. In and out, up and down. Bow chicka wow wow. I guess that wouldn't be a big deal? Like it can handle that wear, and the added loading, and unloading, as the waves mesh and unmesh over and over. I guess that doesn't upset anything? Perhaps that added, and removed load, over and over, is so minor compared to actual load of tires firmly on ground, it doesn't upset anything? Maybe? Not sure how that part of this works. |
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