It's loud. I got an unneccessary acceleration ticket because the guy "thought" I was getting on it. I told him I only went to 5RPM's and pointed to the dash telling him that was less than half of my RPM band but he didn't care. I loved it though but you just have to keep an eye out for who you are accelerating around.

Without the test pipe I have no idea of sound. I had a Apexi GT-Spec before and when I swapped out the cat with a berk test pipe I noticed a HUGE difference. With just a stock cat it should still sound better than all the civics and teggies. I know that if you tried it with then without the test pipe you would beg for the test pipe back. All in all its an awesome exhaust. I just wanted a bigger tip, like my GT-Spec.

Yeah I usually see 800-850 some timems plus shipping.

Since they are back ordered often they hold their value.