What makes an s2k so "heavy"
04-25-2008, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ALFYonso,Apr 26 2008, 02:10 AM
Yeah, I don't mind the extra weight of the windshield frame... I saw pictures of a rolled S2000, and it looks like the frame did a lot to keep the driver alive.
One thing I wish was an option that was weight saving, having a manual top. In the new Miata you can throw the top down with one hand from inside the car, pretty sweet.
...pretty much agree with everyone else on why it weighs more.
One thing I wish was an option that was weight saving, having a manual top. In the new Miata you can throw the top down with one hand from inside the car, pretty sweet.
...pretty much agree with everyone else on why it weighs more.
04-25-2008, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by B serious,Apr 25 2008, 10:08 PM
Ever driven a miata? It wobbles like pam anderson doing a 100 yard dash.
The S2000 has a structural backbone. More steel = more weight, but more stiffness.
The S2000 feels like driving a solid chunk of metal compared to a miata. The miata feels hollow and noodle like compared to an S2000.
That makes up a majority of it.
It's also a bigger car. Bigger wheels. Bigger brakes. Power soft top.
Put an S2000 next to a miata. The S2000 is noticeably bigger. It's more substantial than a miata.
The miata is a little heavy for it's size as well, though. Convertibles have to have extra bracing for the lack of a roof. The Miata is available as a coupe in japan as well...the coupe is probably lighter. Think about it. Miatas weight in at about 2400-2500 lbs for the 2nd gen car. A much much larger civic hatchback weighs in at around 2300lbs or so. An 88-91 hatchback weighs in at about 1900-2000lbs.
Convertibles are heavy.
The Miata also has an Iron block. Aluminum is 3x lighter than steel. Factor in the extra metal needed for extra strength, and the S2000's engine is probably still about 100lbs or so lighter than the Miata's.
Despite that, The Miata vs. S2000 weight argument is easily understood even when you just physically see a miata next to an S2000...even without comparing equipment.
Here's a mind blower, though. My S2000 weighs more than my 99 Si.
The S2000 has a structural backbone. More steel = more weight, but more stiffness.
The S2000 feels like driving a solid chunk of metal compared to a miata. The miata feels hollow and noodle like compared to an S2000.
That makes up a majority of it.
It's also a bigger car. Bigger wheels. Bigger brakes. Power soft top.
Put an S2000 next to a miata. The S2000 is noticeably bigger. It's more substantial than a miata.
The miata is a little heavy for it's size as well, though. Convertibles have to have extra bracing for the lack of a roof. The Miata is available as a coupe in japan as well...the coupe is probably lighter. Think about it. Miatas weight in at about 2400-2500 lbs for the 2nd gen car. A much much larger civic hatchback weighs in at around 2300lbs or so. An 88-91 hatchback weighs in at about 1900-2000lbs.
Convertibles are heavy.
The Miata also has an Iron block. Aluminum is 3x lighter than steel. Factor in the extra metal needed for extra strength, and the S2000's engine is probably still about 100lbs or so lighter than the Miata's.
Despite that, The Miata vs. S2000 weight argument is easily understood even when you just physically see a miata next to an S2000...even without comparing equipment.
Here's a mind blower, though. My S2000 weighs more than my 99 Si.
04-26-2008, 12:25 AM
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[QUOTE=qbmurderer13,Apr 25 2008, 10:16 PM] I used to have an 03 miata and I could easily put the top down in less than 3 seconds with one hand, but it looked sooo ghetto when nowadays everythings all advanced and what not. Kind of embarassing really, it was such a pain trying to get the top up from inside the car too, I had to use 2 hands and it was really really uncomfortable. One of the reasons im in an s2k now
04-26-2008, 01:41 AM
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When I look underneath the S2000, it looks like it is all drivetrain. I've never looked underneath a Miata, but I bet that's where the major difference in weight is.
04-26-2008, 07:22 AM
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2008 MX-5 Grand Touring - 2008 S2000 - difference
Weight: 2498 - 2864 - 366 lbs
Length: 157.30 - 162.20 - 4.9 inches
Width: 67.70 - 68.90 - 1.2 inches
Height: 49.00 - 50.00 - 1.0 inch
Weight: 2498 - 2864 - 366 lbs
Length: 157.30 - 162.20 - 4.9 inches
Width: 67.70 - 68.90 - 1.2 inches
Height: 49.00 - 50.00 - 1.0 inch
04-26-2008, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Elistan,Apr 26 2008, 07:22 AM
2008 MX-5 Grand Touring - 2008 S2000 - difference
Weight: 2498 - 2864 - 366 lbs
Length: 157.30 - 162.20 - 4.9 inches
Width: 67.70 - 68.90 - 1.2 inches
Height: 49.00 - 50.00 - 1.0 inch
Weight: 2498 - 2864 - 366 lbs
Length: 157.30 - 162.20 - 4.9 inches
Width: 67.70 - 68.90 - 1.2 inches
Height: 49.00 - 50.00 - 1.0 inch
04-26-2008, 08:51 AM
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that was a Q i wondered, 2. i've driven the mazdaspeed mx5 a lot and the s2k just seems like more of a 'serious' car, know what i mean? so i just supposed more stable car=more weight, w/o analyzing it. i was super shocked when i got it and found out how much it weighed. 2 look @ it i wouldn't have guessed more than ~2400 lbs.
oh, and lol 2 'noodle-like'
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oh, and lol 2 'noodle-like'
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04-26-2008, 09:37 AM
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i think if honda did make all of the suspension components and body panels with aluminum, this car would be quick off of the showroom.
just everything is steel and heavy. they should of made the frame out of aluminum honeycomb design.
just everything is steel and heavy. they should of made the frame out of aluminum honeycomb design.
