[QUOTE]Originally posted by RazorV3

 

Oh I've seen it..... I'll find it again!

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by trendy26
Not as fun????

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by trendy26
Oh I've seen it.....

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by trendy26
Not as fun????

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by trendy26
GPW with black interior did exist.....

 

This looks like a Freudian slip to me. I think deep down Keith really wants the '04 .

Sorry bud, but I think if you check the on track results of those that have done it, you will find that the '04 doesn't compromise any performance. In fact, most results show improvement despite the more civilized "feel". Best of both worlds baby. Get used to it. BTW, can you explain for us what a "soft" motor feels like?

ron

 

Not a Freudian slip but to make it more clear: if you want pure performance and dont give a shit about worthless comfort and convenience items buy a 2000-2003. Wow I get a crappy clock and another worthless cupholder in an '04! Yippie!!!

I'm telling you this as FACT. A few weeks ago I drove a 2004 model with my race tires on an autox course. It was in no way, shape, or form as quick as my 01. The car was soft in dampening, the motor didn't feel as powerful as mine (hence soft, as in performance). This was a fully broken-in 2004 as well.

Not to mention the car's owner managed to spin the thing on race tires twice. So much for getting rid of that snap oversteer huh!?

I have yet to see a same driver, back to back test of the 2000-2003 units versus a 2004 unit on any race circuit. Please show me your information if you have some. A dyno reading doesn't cut it on this one.

Furthermore I have yet to see a single 2000-2003 owner say they like the 2004 better. There are even some owners of the older ones who bought 2004s and say they are not as good (look at this thread). The only people who ever stick up for the 2004 are the folks that have purchased them, and don't have a baseline of the old car.
As for wanting an 04. Nope. If my S died tomorrow I'll be going out to lease myself a 911 GT3.

 

What do you call someone who thinks their opinion is the only one that counts?

Dude, say what you mean.
You prefer the 2004, fine. Great. Whoop-de-do. Your opinion is wonderful for you.... it probably is more fun for people who "do not need a raw car." To you, "Honda made the car better."

But for those of us who bought the car because the Honda was a pure, raw roadster... maybe not so much.

Litmus test: If you think the Ferrari CS and the Lotus Elise could "be made better" with power windows and carpeted floors... 'nuff said.

Don't try and defend opinion as fact. It just looks silly.

Meanwhile, I'm going to go out and rip up some pavement with 9k shifts.

 

Sounds to me like you didn't give the motor a chance.... Unless your '01 is modified, I do not understand how you can say it was not as quick as your '01....

If you went into it believing the '04 wa sslower, than that is what your perception would be, even if it was indeed, quicker than your car.....


Who knows, it could just be a mental thing......

If numbers don't lie, isn't the '04 a tad bit quicker than the pre '04???