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AP1 to AP2 Rear Bumper Conversion
DISCLAIMER: The procedures, methods and products written up here were for my circumstances only. I make no assertions that your results will be the same nor do I claim that this is the best way to do it. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!
1. Put the car up on jack stands and remove the rear wheels. 2. Remove the one screws and one bolt on each side of the wheel well. https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.ph...age&img=113975 https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.ph...age&img=108922 3. Remove the five black plastic fastners three across the top by the trunk and 2 on the bottom by the mufflers. https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.ph...age&img=108923 4. Carefully remove the cover from the sides pushing up from the bottom of the cover while pulling out. The cover should now be removed. 5. Dry fit the new rear cover installing in the oppisite as you removed it. https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.ph...age&img=108925 6. Measure the distance from the bottom of the cover to the bracket to determine the size of the bracket adapter you will have to make. My brackets were 1.5" on the top and bottom and 2" between the top and bottom. https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.ph...age&img=141245 I made my brackets out of stock aluminium I bought at home depot. Drill one hole on the bottom to fit the factory fastner and the second hole on top to fit the bolt you are using to mount the bracket. 7. Remove the cover and have it painted. 8. Reinstall the cover the way you took it off. Use the adapter bracket you made to mount the bottom of the cover to the car. https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.ph...age&img=108924 Install the five fastners, two screws and two bolts. Put the wheels back on and you are done. https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.ph...age&img=203584 Mods feel free to link to DIY thread. I posted this once before but it was lost. Jim |
excellent :thumbup: Linked to FAQ
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When I swapped my AP1 bumper with the AP2 I found the foam to be pressing on the bumper, causing the license plate to actually angle up somewhat. At some point I will remove it and get the thing down to flush.
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Originally Posted by MikeyCB,May 28 2007, 12:56 PM
When I swapped my AP1 bumper with the AP2 I found the foam to be pressing on the bumper, causing the license plate to actually angle up somewhat. At some point I will remove it and get the thing down to flush.
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I still haven't taken my foam out, and I probably won't until I have to replace the rear bumper after some doofus rear-ends me while on his cell phone, eating his Papa burger.
Maybe I'm wrong, but it sure seems like the foam is in the way especially when I get underneath. The plate definitely angles up, but I suppse that could've been that intentional design based on the naturally low height of the car. |
Is it different to switch from AP2 to AP1?
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Originally Posted by David-D,Oct 8 2007, 03:21 PM
Is it different to switch from AP2 to AP1?
sorry to be reviving an old thread but, I was wondering the same. |
Originally Posted by David-D,Oct 8 2007, 03:21 PM
Is it different to switch from AP2 to AP1?
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Originally Posted by SoMe0nE2tAlK2,Mar 19 2008, 03:49 PM
+1
sorry to be reviving an old thread but, I was wondering the same. |
So does anyone know if the metal brackets have to be really stiff or can I just make some out of some soft bendable aluminum brackets or something
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Originally Posted by bboixtc,May 3 2009, 01:33 PM
So does anyone know if the metal brackets have to be really stiff or can I just make some out of some soft bendable aluminum brackets or something
Here is a picture of mine I made out of aluminum I bought at home depot. |
How did you make that? did u just buy those bars and bend it by hand?
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Bought a strip of the flat metal at home depot measured and bent it in a vise by hand and drilled the holes.
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Originally Posted by PAS2KNut,May 3 2009, 01:12 PM
Bought a strip of the flat metal at home depot measured and bent it in a vise by hand and drilled the holes.
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Has anyone else done this? I'm doing this now, and realized the holes on the side (curve by the rear wheel) don't match. Do I make a bracket for that too?
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no you just re-drill one more hole by matching it up with the bracket behind the bumper. It should be a couple of inches above
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I think I'll be doing this soon. You guys can just measure and then buy some channel aluminum from somewhere. The bends would be stronger and probably look better since the channel is formed in that shape.
I'm pretty sure you can buy 1'' to 1.5'' channel aluminum. It'd be more dimensionally stable than using flexible aluminum strips and more exact and stronger than bending it yourself. |
Do you still have your AP1 bumper? If so, would you want to sell it?
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It was damaged in a track crash. But it's totally fixable if you want to paint it.
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Apparently the body shop said my foam wouldn't fit at all. They just left it out. I'm putting the car away for winter storage...so I can buy the foam later....unless there is a way to shave it down or something?
I guess I'll have to take the bumper off, take a look and let you guys know. They didn't put the front foam in either...hmm. I'll have to either give up and buy the right foam or cut mine down or something. |
great tut! Car is looking very nice!
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Originally Posted by PAS2KNut,Nov 13 2006, 09:17 PM
DISCLAIMER: The procedures, methods and products written up here were for my circumstances only. I make no assertions that your results will be the same nor do I claim that this is the best way to do it. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!
1. Put the car up on jack stands and remove the rear wheels. 2. Remove the one screws and one bolt on each side of the wheel well. https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.ph...age&img=113975 https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.ph...age&img=108922 3. Remove the five black plastic fastners three across the top by the trunk and 2 on the bottom by the mufflers. https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.ph...age&img=108923 4. Carefully remove the cover from the sides pushing up from the bottom of the cover while pulling out. The cover should now be removed. 5. Dry fit the new rear cover installing in the oppisite as you removed it. https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.ph...age&img=108925 6. Measure the distance from the bottom of the cover to the bracket to determine the size of the bracket adapter you will have to make. My brackets were 1.5" on the top and bottom and 2" between the top and bottom. https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.ph...age&img=141245 I made my brackets out of stock aluminium I bought at home depot. Drill one hole on the bottom to fit the factory fastner and the second hole on top to fit the bolt you are using to mount the bracket. 7. Remove the cover and have it painted. 8. Reinstall the cover the way you took it off. Use the adapter bracket you made to mount the bottom of the cover to the car. https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.ph...age&img=108924 Install the five fastners, two screws and two bolts. Put the wheels back on and you are done. https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.ph...age&img=203584 Mods feel free to link to DIY thread. I posted this once before but it was lost. Jim The helpful information on this site is amazing when you get yourself into an unexpected bind. :ponder: :thumbup: |
im trying to do this today does anyone have the pictures so i can have an idea instead of ruining anything
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definitely a great thread by the op, helped me immensely with the install. I used the same material, when I put it in the vice I bent it with a hammer getting perfect 90 degree angles on them, it's a great material to work with and nice and stiff to hold the bumper in higher speed conditions.
I've got pictures of the brackets I used, I can post them tomorrow as it is pretty late right now. Once the brackets were formed I used a drill press to drill the top and bottom holes exactly above eachother. I used stainless washer and bolts and nuts to affix brackets to the factory hangers, then used Honda clips to affix bumper to new hangers. |
yes please if you can bec i want to do this n want to do it right.
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Originally Posted by vasquezgno
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yes please if you can bec i want to do this n want to do it right.
Here you are, these were the first ones I made, for some reason they turned out about 1\2 inch longer than I measured, so I made a second shorter set. But these give you an idea of how it works, the material is nice to use, soft enough to bend but firm enough to hold things in place. Notice how I got perfect corners on them, just using a vice bending initially by hand and then using a good hammer to create perfect corners. On this set I've got thread inserts in the top hole, but you dont need to use them, a plain hole works just fine and using a bolt, lock washer, regular washer and nut. I believe I made my holes are about 10mm in size, to fit a Honda plastic clip. If you use a drill press with them standing on end you can get the top hole drilled and then drill down through to the bottom hole and they will line up perfectly on the car. Be sure to hold the brackets with a vice grip or clamp when in the drill press, mine spun around and smacked my thumb pretty good one time getting away from me, ouch. :crycry: If anyone wants to buy this set I'd sell them for a couple bucks plus shipping, but they are a bit longer. Attachment 112004 |
thank you for the info im doing it this weekend and cant wait to install it
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How much you want for these shipping to 01854??
Originally Posted by JFUSION
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Originally Posted by vasquezgno' timestamp='1302405013' post='20448906
yes please if you can bec i want to do this n want to do it right.
Here you are, these were the first ones I made, for some reason they turned out about 1\2 inch longer than I measured, so I made a second shorter set. But these give you an idea of how it works, the material is nice to use, soft enough to bend but firm enough to hold things in place. Notice how I got perfect corners on them, just using a vice bending initially by hand and then using a good hammer to create perfect corners. On this set I've got thread inserts in the top hole, but you dont need to use them, a plain hole works just fine and using a bolt, lock washer, regular washer and nut. I believe I made my holes are about 10mm in size, to fit a Honda plastic clip. If you use a drill press with them standing on end you can get the top hole drilled and then drill down through to the bottom hole and they will line up perfectly on the car. Be sure to hold the brackets with a vice grip or clamp when in the drill press, mine spun around and smacked my thumb pretty good one time getting away from me, ouch. :crycry: If anyone wants to buy this set I'd sell them for a couple bucks plus shipping, but they are a bit longer. http://i933.photobucket.com/albums/a...1/IMG_0564.jpg |
they are easy to make bro but just becareful removing your ap1 rear bumper. On the sides there are clips you can remove but need to have like a screwdriver to push tabs out or they break.
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Someone want to make me some bracket adapters? :LOL:
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subscribed. something to look into in the near future
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will be doing this soon as well :-)
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Gotta say I prefer the AP1 rear bumper (ducks for cover)
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lol ^
You wouldnt be the only one. Most people do. AP1 looks better with most diffusers. |
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