Crank Walk Adventures: Thrust Bearing Failure
#131
Driver input plays a big role here as well:
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-at no time should you be HOLDING the clutch pedal down during any driving situation. Any time you push the clutch pedal down, you should be releasing it in the same motion. I have seen drivers do this. It is not healthy for the thrust bearing, nor is it conducive to smooth operation of the car.
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-at no time should you be HOLDING the clutch pedal down during any driving situation. Any time you push the clutch pedal down, you should be releasing it in the same motion. I have seen drivers do this. It is not healthy for the thrust bearing, nor is it conducive to smooth operation of the car.
#132
.006 is beautiful.
Clutch interlock bypass will go a long way to preventing thrust washer wear. Just remember you need to be aware as the car can be started in gear and take off on you, becoming a danger to everyone.
Does anyone know if there are no clutch-interlocks in other countries?
Clutch interlock bypass will go a long way to preventing thrust washer wear. Just remember you need to be aware as the car can be started in gear and take off on you, becoming a danger to everyone.
Does anyone know if there are no clutch-interlocks in other countries?
I've been searching mouser / digikey and I can't pin the sockets and the pins used by the clutch interlock switch and wiring. Probably just buy another interlock switch because they are cheap and gut it so I can use the connector. Normally I'd just cut into the wiring but soldering in that area of the car will be hard and a broken connection in this area would cause the car not to start.
#133
.006 is beautiful.
Clutch interlock bypass will go a long way to preventing thrust washer wear. Just remember you need to be aware as the car can be started in gear and take off on you, becoming a danger to everyone.
Does anyone know if there are no clutch-interlocks in other countries?
Clutch interlock bypass will go a long way to preventing thrust washer wear. Just remember you need to be aware as the car can be started in gear and take off on you, becoming a danger to everyone.
Does anyone know if there are no clutch-interlocks in other countries?
#135
This is a recognised problem in the UK, it seemed to affect just the MY08 and MY09 cars (which in the UK are all AP1 with 2.0L engines).
There is no definitve answer for the number affected, but 3-5% is a figure most people agree on. It is significant that a number of cars in the UK in 2010-2012 had replacement engines under warranty as the originals started to fail, and then (in a small number) the replacement engines were replaced!
Check this out, if you have the patience:
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/uk-irela...owners-876045/
There is no definitve answer for the number affected, but 3-5% is a figure most people agree on. It is significant that a number of cars in the UK in 2010-2012 had replacement engines under warranty as the originals started to fail, and then (in a small number) the replacement engines were replaced!
Check this out, if you have the patience:
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/uk-irela...owners-876045/
Last edited by ValveBounce; 07-31-2017 at 08:04 AM.
#136
Clutch interlock bypass will go a long way to preventing thrust washer wear. Just remember you need to be aware as the car can be started in gear and take off on you, becoming a danger to everyone.
Does anyone know if there are no clutch-interlocks in other countries?
Does anyone know if there are no clutch-interlocks in other countries?
Last edited by ValveBounce; 07-31-2017 at 11:18 PM.
#137
We know some US cars had thrust washer installed backwards from the factory. Obviously no amount of interlock bypass is gonna keep those cars running forever.
So perhaps since uk doesn't have interlock, the 2.0 uk motors that had this issue were all ones with backwards washers?
So an interlock bypass would be useful to prevent wear on a correctly installed thrust washer...
Meanwhile, to prevent an inattentive alignment tech from driving my car off the lift when they start it gear without the clutch, I plan to connect my clutch interlock harness to the brake light switch (instead of bypassing with a wire), so pressing brake is required to start car.
Disconnect clutch harness from clutch interlock switch. Jump wires from each lead on interlock harness to corresponding wire on brake pedal switch.
So perhaps since uk doesn't have interlock, the 2.0 uk motors that had this issue were all ones with backwards washers?
So an interlock bypass would be useful to prevent wear on a correctly installed thrust washer...
Meanwhile, to prevent an inattentive alignment tech from driving my car off the lift when they start it gear without the clutch, I plan to connect my clutch interlock harness to the brake light switch (instead of bypassing with a wire), so pressing brake is required to start car.
Disconnect clutch harness from clutch interlock switch. Jump wires from each lead on interlock harness to corresponding wire on brake pedal switch.
#138
Meanwhile, to prevent an inattentive alignment tech from driving my car off the lift when they start it gear without the clutch, I plan to connect my clutch interlock harness to the brake light switch (instead of bypassing with a wire), so pressing brake is required to start car.
Disconnect clutch harness from clutch interlock switch. Jump wires from each lead on interlock harness to corresponding wire on brake pedal switch.
Disconnect clutch harness from clutch interlock switch. Jump wires from each lead on interlock harness to corresponding wire on brake pedal switch.
Last edited by jwzimm; 10-15-2017 at 09:22 AM.
#139
So I have no concerns about having someone else drive my car. Sure they'll put some excess wear on the thrust washer but it will be negligible if the engine is warm, etc.
#140
When I bypassed my clutch interlock I wired it up to require pressing a momentary switch button (that is hidden). If the button isn't pushed the clutch interlock is _not_ bypassed. But the car can still be started by pressing in the clutch. Pretty sure I followed this DIY on s2ki.
So I have no concerns about having someone else drive my car. Sure they'll put some excess wear on the thrust washer but it will be negligible if the engine is warm, etc.
So I have no concerns about having someone else drive my car. Sure they'll put some excess wear on the thrust washer but it will be negligible if the engine is warm, etc.
It should be very simple to do. That guide has you disable the original switch on the pedal. In order to implement your idea you would just vampire tap both wires going to the interlock and wire up the momentary switch to them. That way the clutch switch can still function as normal but you can also close the circuit with the momentary switch thereby bypassing the clutch switch and allowing the starter to engage.
Now I just need to find a good momentary switch and location to place it.
Thanks!