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Old 03-08-2019, 02:55 AM
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@VashTheStampede do you know who the cheapest genuine supplier is?
https://www.amayama.com/en/part/honda/17130pv3013

If you are ok with ordering from japan.
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Originally Posted by Filigranas
please help again here, my engine might be bad

https://www.s2ki.com/forums/s2000-un...1190696/page5/

Good news, the mechanic has used a better modern gauge today and results are 12,5 in 3 cilinders and 14 in other, so it means it´s almost new. With that gauge he can print the results, he will email me those later so I can upload here.

So, now, the issue are the gaskets?

thanks all!
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The 12.5 and 14 are bar values?

Most here are in the USA. We use psi, not bar. We also use . as the separator, not ,

For those on US shores, bar is atmospheres. 1 atmosphere (1 bar) is about 14.5 psi (the weight of a square inch column of air whose height is sea level to outer atmosphere is about 14.5 lbs).

So 12.5 bar is about 180 psi, while 14 is about 200 psi. Very healthy numbers for almost every other engine made. Not so good at all for an F20 or F22 motor.

A healthy S would be around 16.5 bar.

But most mechanics won't be aware that these aren't good numbers for our cars.
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Originally Posted by Car Analogy
The 12.5 and 14 are bar values?

Most here are in the USA. We use psi, not bar. We also use . as the separator, not ,

For those on US shores, bar is atmospheres. 1 atmosphere (1 bar) is about 14.5 psi (the weight of a square inch column of air whose height is sea level to outer atmosphere is about 14.5 lbs).

So 12.5 bar is about 180 psi, while 14 is about 200 psi. Very healthy numbers for almost every other engine made. Not so good at all for an F20 or F22 motor.

A healthy S would be around 16.5 bar.

But most mechanics won't be aware that these aren't good numbers for our cars.
Here I post the remeasure of today with the good gauges, so is not healthy at all? Would it get better after the valve gasket, oil cap etc renewal?


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Old 03-08-2019, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by N777CK T


@VashTheStampede do you know who the cheapest genuine supplier is?
A parts store, any parts store, where they are under $7 usd.
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Why don't you stick to your own thread instead Filigranas, there is already enough confusement on your engine problem.
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Originally Posted by flanders
Why don't you stick to your own thread instead Filigranas, there is already enough confusement on your engine problem.

I will, thanks!
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Out of curiosity I went out to Harbor Freight and bought a vacuum gauge to see if I had a crankcase vacuum leak. I measured vacuum as the breather hose at -14hg steady at idle. Just checked my dipstick and it looks like I've lost a quart of oil in 350 miles of street driving/commuting. So unfortunately it looks like replacing the gas cap or any of the other gaskets in the cylinder head is not going to fix my oil burning... It must be getting past the oil rings.

This is an 01 engine with 146K miles btw.
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Originally Posted by Soviet
So unfortunately it looks like replacing the gas cap or any of the other gaskets in the cylinder head is not going to fix my oil burning... It must be getting past the oil rings.

This is an 01 engine with 146K miles btw.
Bummer.

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Originally Posted by Soviet
Out of curiosity I went out to Harbor Freight and bought a vacuum gauge to see if I had a crankcase vacuum leak. I measured vacuum as the breather hose at -14hg steady at idle. Just checked my dipstick and it looks like I've lost a quart of oil in 350 miles of street driving/commuting. So unfortunately it looks like replacing the gas cap or any of the other gaskets in the cylinder head is not going to fix my oil burning... It must be getting past the oil rings.

This is an 01 engine with 146K miles btw.
This is the ship that most of us are in. '03 with 210K miles. Using half 0w40 and half 15w50, netting a 7.5w45 weight oil has helped.

A good fix would be to create more vacuum and a better ring seal. Krank vents achieved this, however it make the seals cluck at idle, which I can't imagine is good.

I've been thinking about somehow restricting the breather tube air flow capacity in order to increase vacuum, like inserting a second pcv valve in that hose, but so far it's been easier to just add oil.


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