Flashing CEL during prolonged VTEC use (3rd gear+)
#31
Good idea on the compression test. I'd also ditch the Mishimoto sandwich plate pronto. I ended up returning mine after I noticed oil leaking out from under the filter, even after way over-torquing the oil filter. I had suspicions that it would happen after inspecting the mating surface. The stock oil cooler/heater's mating surface is perfectly flat and polished to a mirror shine, but the surface of the Mishimoto is rough anodized aluminum--far from a mirror polish. I ended up getting a Mocal sandwich plate, which doesn't leak. Still have to over-torque slightly as the surface still isn't perfectly flat, but it's better than leaking oil. Hope you figure out your issue!
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Are you sure all the vtec parts are as they were?
All those little pistons and such.
None of them dropped out of the rocker assembly while removing them?
And if they did they went back in as they should?
IOW: are you sure the whole valve train is 100%?
All those little pistons and such.
None of them dropped out of the rocker assembly while removing them?
And if they did they went back in as they should?
IOW: are you sure the whole valve train is 100%?
#33
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To reiterate the original post we also took a look at the VTEC solenoid and everything looked 100% there but we also cleaned it out for good measure.
I'd imagine if a VTEC pin were incorrectly placed/put in that I'd be unable to be in VTEC in any of my gears/the issue would rear its head during all VTEC use and not just when I'm in VTEC for an extended period of time in a high gear only... I'm no expert though, just offering a counter point
#34
I'd double/triple check the VTEC solenoid, including the solenoid gasket(s) - ideally swap in a known-good assembly.
If that doesn't fix it, it sounds like an oiling issue. VTEC engagement (including remaining in VTEC) relies on oil pressure, so something must be clogging up the VTEC oiling path, or somehow losing oil pressure during long stays in VTEC.
If that doesn't fix it, it sounds like an oiling issue. VTEC engagement (including remaining in VTEC) relies on oil pressure, so something must be clogging up the VTEC oiling path, or somehow losing oil pressure during long stays in VTEC.
#35
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Compression tested the cylinders and everything looks fine/engine looks healthy
Cyl 1 - 221 / 222
Cyl 2 - 220 / 225
Cyl 3 - 235 / 240
Cyl 4 - 235 / 238
Here are some pics of the spark plugs - they were added about a month ago, around 800 miles since they've been added... does anything look wrong?
Cyl 1 - 221 / 222
Cyl 2 - 220 / 225
Cyl 3 - 235 / 240
Cyl 4 - 235 / 238
Here are some pics of the spark plugs - they were added about a month ago, around 800 miles since they've been added... does anything look wrong?
#38
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rechecked all gaps on spark plugs and they were fine
re-torqued all plugs to billman spec
put new coil packs
test drove the car around and drove quite a while but finally got the issue to occur during a the top of 3rd gear (~8k rpm) again. still the same mysterious flashing CEL and pending p1399
going to clean injectors as a last ditch effort then throw in the towel
re-torqued all plugs to billman spec
put new coil packs
test drove the car around and drove quite a while but finally got the issue to occur during a the top of 3rd gear (~8k rpm) again. still the same mysterious flashing CEL and pending p1399
going to clean injectors as a last ditch effort then throw in the towel
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The outside temps were lower at the time?
It could indicate it's 'oil related' as it took more time to really heat up & thin out the oil (you're not using a dino 20 weight.. are you - I had to ask)
I said 'oil related' as it still can be a 'vtec leak' as thinner oil can't keep vtec up or something.
The other code P1259 never came back?
And you don't notice anything righ before the cell pops up (I know that's not easy to do)
Do you reset on the spot and do another run / test or do you limp home and reset at home?
I don't know what happens if just one set of pins is in the wrong order - there are 2 lenghts of pins - if the ECU will detect it straight away, in or out of vtec.
As far as I know the ECU detects missfires by looking at the crank sensor signal, looking if the signal is steady during crank rotation.
Maybe even in combination with the cam sensor(s), I forgot if we have a sensor on both cams.
So you could say:
(1) There really is a problem in vtec.
(2) The ECU looking at faulty sensors THINKS there is a problem in vtec.
Is the ground connection at the back of the head ok?
I donno...
It could indicate it's 'oil related' as it took more time to really heat up & thin out the oil (you're not using a dino 20 weight.. are you - I had to ask)
I said 'oil related' as it still can be a 'vtec leak' as thinner oil can't keep vtec up or something.
The other code P1259 never came back?
And you don't notice anything righ before the cell pops up (I know that's not easy to do)
Do you reset on the spot and do another run / test or do you limp home and reset at home?
I don't know what happens if just one set of pins is in the wrong order - there are 2 lenghts of pins - if the ECU will detect it straight away, in or out of vtec.
As far as I know the ECU detects missfires by looking at the crank sensor signal, looking if the signal is steady during crank rotation.
Maybe even in combination with the cam sensor(s), I forgot if we have a sensor on both cams.
So you could say:
(1) There really is a problem in vtec.
(2) The ECU looking at faulty sensors THINKS there is a problem in vtec.
Is the ground connection at the back of the head ok?
I donno...
#40
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Just wanted to post an update to this... i have an appointment booked in the beginning of july with evasive, hopefully it'll all get sorted then.
in the meantime i realized that my issues seem very similar to those of people with MAP issues... e.g. https://www.s2ki.com/forums/s2000-un...ng-out-640530/ and https://www.s2ki.com/forums/s2000-un...6000-a-581814/
im going to try the map whack and add the zip tie/housing to secure the MAP sensor.
also going to clean the injectors while im at it
these are my last attempts... dont want to cause any more unnecessary damage (if i am causing any)
in the meantime i realized that my issues seem very similar to those of people with MAP issues... e.g. https://www.s2ki.com/forums/s2000-un...ng-out-640530/ and https://www.s2ki.com/forums/s2000-un...6000-a-581814/
im going to try the map whack and add the zip tie/housing to secure the MAP sensor.
also going to clean the injectors while im at it
these are my last attempts... dont want to cause any more unnecessary damage (if i am causing any)