Low oil on dipstick.... how bad?
05-04-2019, 06:57 AM
#41
I don't have a fumoto...but I do always torque from the top. No issues even with my sandwich plate that spaces the filter out. I do unplug the VTEC solenoid to avoid damaging it by mistake.
05-08-2019, 10:35 PM
#43
Registered User
The S2000 filter uses a metal crush ring.
You need to first get past that ring, contact the rubber gasket, and THEN go 7/8 turn...which roughly equates to 18LB-FT.
Doing this causes the ring to deform and seal.
Its not 7/8 turn from initial contact.
You'd have to be an actual GD, MF'ing silverback gorilla like my man Harambe (RIP) to do this.
Try this:
Grab a torque wrench and set it to 18LB-FT. Put it on a bolt and tighten til it clicks. Now imagine trying to turn a slippery, ~3.25" diameter cylindrical object to that spec while reaching into an engine bay.
Now imagine being a gorilla.
Put those two thoughts together.
Then you have the full picture.
You need to first get past that ring, contact the rubber gasket, and THEN go 7/8 turn...which roughly equates to 18LB-FT.
Doing this causes the ring to deform and seal.
Its not 7/8 turn from initial contact.
You'd have to be an actual GD, MF'ing silverback gorilla like my man Harambe (RIP) to do this.
Try this:
Grab a torque wrench and set it to 18LB-FT. Put it on a bolt and tighten til it clicks. Now imagine trying to turn a slippery, ~3.25" diameter cylindrical object to that spec while reaching into an engine bay.
Now imagine being a gorilla.
Put those two thoughts together.
Then you have the full picture.
typical non-s2000 filter, 7/8 turn does not equal anywhere close to 18 ft/lb and is achievable by hand.
is that what you're confirming?
05-09-2019, 04:24 AM
#44
Why are we making this hard? 
I say again
the torque spec is 16 lbf-ft (sixteen) or 22 N-m. Honda specifies a special tool for this filter which has a fitting for a wrench to remove it and a torque wrench to install it. If you want that tool order 07912-6110001 for about $45 (!) or get the
Advance Auto Parts version
-- Chuck
I say again
the torque spec is 16 lbf-ft (sixteen) or 22 N-m. Honda specifies a special tool for this filter which has a fitting for a wrench to remove it and a torque wrench to install it. If you want that tool order 07912-6110001 for about $45 (!) or get the
Advance Auto Parts version
-- Chuck
Last edited by Chuck S; 05-09-2019 at 04:28 AM.
05-09-2019, 08:21 AM
#46
- The S2000 filter is not 7/8 turn from initial contact. Its from GASKET contact.
- There is no way to get it tight enough by hand.
- Even if there was, why would you want to struggle?
-No.
The Honda spec is 16-18LB-FT on the S2000 specific filter.
As Chuck has shown, the attachment is MASSIVELY cheap. Spend $6 to earn your ticket to get off the struggle bus.
I'm sure there are filters out there that call for 7/8 turn from initial contact because the rubber gasket is the first thing to touch the block. The S2000 filter is NOT one of them - there is also a metal ring.
Because of said construction on the S2000 filter,
the 7/8 turn from gasket contact is not as simple to ascertain as you think. Its also just a reference value.
Just torque it to spec. Only you can prevent an engine fire.
Last edited by B serious; 05-09-2019 at 08:25 AM.
05-09-2019, 11:43 AM
#47
Registered User
lol, i'm good with my s2000 filter.
my question was about non-s2000 filters that also call for 7/8 turns that is done by hand. trying to confirm that these non-s2000 filters at 7/8 turns is not 16-18 ft/lbs like the s2000. (worried about a ford fusion).
my question was about non-s2000 filters that also call for 7/8 turns that is done by hand. trying to confirm that these non-s2000 filters at 7/8 turns is not 16-18 ft/lbs like the s2000. (worried about a ford fusion).
05-09-2019, 12:18 PM
#48
I would follow the manufacturer direction. Some filters are just spin on and get tight. Some have a torque spec.
05-09-2019, 12:32 PM
#49
Been doing the s2000 filter by hand for 15 years/250k miles, never had an issue. I am pretty strong, yes. I also don't have the stupid hand slicer/Batt shield in place. Also have not been religious about using an OEM filter, but have strayed when convenient to good quality Mobil one, KN or wix filters.
Last edited by s2000Junky; 05-09-2019 at 12:34 PM.
05-09-2019, 01:36 PM
#50
Been doing the s2000 filter by hand for 15 years/250k miles, never had an issue. I am pretty strong, yes. I also don't have the stupid hand slicer/Batt shield in place. Also have not been religious about using an OEM filter, but have strayed when convenient to good quality Mobil one, KN or wix filters.
I've been tightening shift knobs with my eye socket for 17 centuries, since the invention of the eye socket.
I'm like a fukken OX, bruv...but only at the eye socket.
I don't understand the moral of your story. BUT it could be due to the MASSIVE brain damage I've sustained from mysterious events.
Last edited by B serious; 05-09-2019 at 01:40 PM.