new starter won't start ?
03-26-2017, 02:36 AM
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Maybe there is still something wrong, i don't know? Because sometimes he doesn't start inmediatly after pushing the button.
Changing bougies maybe will help?
03-26-2017, 04:59 AM
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bougies? Not even google was any help ... 
The starter motor just spins the car engine. I'm assuming this happens immediately on pressing Start. Again assuming the motor is spinning fast enough the car will start. 5 seconds is a long time. I normally just have to stab the button to start the car.
New batteries are seldom 100% charged. Overnight on a good charger will ensure the new battery is in top condition. The car alternator and voltage regulator conspire to merely trickle charge the battery while driving because normal starting the car uses little power so only little power needs to be replaced.
-- Chuck
The starter motor just spins the car engine. I'm assuming this happens immediately on pressing Start. Again assuming the motor is spinning fast enough the car will start. 5 seconds is a long time. I normally just have to stab the button to start the car.
New batteries are seldom 100% charged. Overnight on a good charger will ensure the new battery is in top condition. The car alternator and voltage regulator conspire to merely trickle charge the battery while driving because normal starting the car uses little power so only little power needs to be replaced.
-- Chuck
03-26-2017, 06:16 AM
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"Bougies" = candles, in French. Slang for headlights? Grasping at straws, here
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03-28-2017, 10:04 AM
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bougies? Not even google was any help ...
The starter motor just spins the car engine. I'm assuming this happens immediately on pressing Start. Again assuming the motor is spinning fast enough the car will start. 5 seconds is a long time. I normally just have to stab the button to start the car.
New batteries are seldom 100% charged. Overnight on a good charger will ensure the new battery is in top condition. The car alternator and voltage regulator conspire to merely trickle charge the battery while driving because normal starting the car uses little power so only little power needs to be replaced.
-- Chuck
The starter motor just spins the car engine. I'm assuming this happens immediately on pressing Start. Again assuming the motor is spinning fast enough the car will start. 5 seconds is a long time. I normally just have to stab the button to start the car.
New batteries are seldom 100% charged. Overnight on a good charger will ensure the new battery is in top condition. The car alternator and voltage regulator conspire to merely trickle charge the battery while driving because normal starting the car uses little power so only little power needs to be replaced.
-- Chuck
i think i'll have to check the voltage of my alternator and groundcables if they don't have a bad contact.
I'll recharge the new battery and we'll see but with the alternator running, it should recharge while driving.
Yesterday i've went to some places and i came home, shutted down the car, 10 minutes later starting it again and he did not start for like 10-15 seconds, a loud noise and cracle from the starter untill he finally started. So I think it's the battery who isn't strong enough or hasn't enough power to crank the engine. But when i installed the new battery 4 days ago he did start inmediatly after pushing the startbutton once...
What could this be? I'm starting to think about the alternator or groundcables that have a bad connection?
(already new starter, new battery, new clips for battery + and - to cables)
03-28-2017, 10:35 AM
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The alternator just trickle charges the battery and if it's dead it can take hours for a full recharge.
Connections are always the first suspects. Start there.
Any aftermarket electrical devices like alarms, etc. that may be wired directly to the battery and discharge it constantly?
-- Chuck
Connections are always the first suspects. Start there.
Any aftermarket electrical devices like alarms, etc. that may be wired directly to the battery and discharge it constantly?
-- Chuck
03-28-2017, 10:48 AM
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The alternator just trickle charges the battery and if it's dead it can take hours for a full recharge.
Connections are always the first suspects. Start there.
Any aftermarket electrical devices like alarms, etc. that may be wired directly to the battery and discharge it constantly?
-- Chuck
Connections are always the first suspects. Start there.
Any aftermarket electrical devices like alarms, etc. that may be wired directly to the battery and discharge it constantly?
-- Chuck
I'll start with the connections and cables, after that i'll use a voltage-meter for alternator
03-28-2017, 12:08 PM
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Have you tried to check for parasitic current draw? Here's a good YT about how-to-do-it:
03-28-2017, 12:56 PM
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Have you tried to check for parasitic current draw? Here's a good YT about how-to-do-it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF1gijj03_0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF1gijj03_0
03-31-2017, 02:20 AM
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Here is an update:
I checked my battery, car not running: 12,7 volt
I did the parasitic draw test for any leaks: got 0.001A so i don't have a leak. I tried this with the ignition on and then i got 8A. (to test if i was doing it right).
So next step was trying to start my engige, because battery seems to be okay and there was no elektronic leak. IT STARTS without any difficulties on the first push on my startbutton.
Now I checked the alternator: car running without radio / headlights / .... : 14.4 volt
Now i checked the alternator: car running with radio / headlights/ ... : 14.0 volt
So it all seems to be working good and it started well..
4 days ago after driving and starting my car up to 4 / 5 times, the 4th and 5th time i was starting my car, it was like he didn't have enough power. i was taking like 15-20 seconds before he started and he was making that unhealthy noise / cracking loud noise / dashboard flickering / ...
What else could this be??? (starter and battery are brand new, 1 week in car)
I checked my battery, car not running: 12,7 volt
I did the parasitic draw test for any leaks: got 0.001A so i don't have a leak. I tried this with the ignition on and then i got 8A. (to test if i was doing it right).
So next step was trying to start my engige, because battery seems to be okay and there was no elektronic leak. IT STARTS without any difficulties on the first push on my startbutton.
Now I checked the alternator: car running without radio / headlights / .... : 14.4 volt
Now i checked the alternator: car running with radio / headlights/ ... : 14.0 volt
So it all seems to be working good and it started well..
4 days ago after driving and starting my car up to 4 / 5 times, the 4th and 5th time i was starting my car, it was like he didn't have enough power. i was taking like 15-20 seconds before he started and he was making that unhealthy noise / cracking loud noise / dashboard flickering / ...
What else could this be??? (starter and battery are brand new, 1 week in car)
03-31-2017, 03:13 AM
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You seem to have an excessive amperage draw when hot starting. Something is pulling those amps. Or your connections to the battery, starter, and frame are very dirty. Bad new starter or bad new battery are unlikely but still possible. The new battery is a regular battery, not something low powered like an Optima I hope. My Duralast battery is rated at 625 cold cranking amps and the car starts in one second. Guys obsessed with weight start their cars with what looks like motorcycle or lawn tractor batteries.
Ya need an extremely robust ammeter to check the electrical draw but I think that's the next step if all else is good.
-- Chuck
Ya need an extremely robust ammeter to check the electrical draw but I think that's the next step if all else is good.
-- Chuck