Oil filter question/loose oil filters
#94
Hey... look at this!
Sorry to revive, but it just seemed so timely ... lol
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/s2000-ra...build-1192837/
Sorry to revive, but it just seemed so timely ... lol
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/s2000-ra...build-1192837/
#95
Wow. Ugly.
So right up until the car burst into flames, the owner could confidently say, I just hand tighten my filter like on every other car I've ever owned, and never had a problem. I even track my car!
Its not a problem until it is, then its a real big problem.
Note, not intending to disparage that cars owner. For all I know they torqued the filter down properly, and it still backed off due to track extremes. Don't want to pour salt on their wounds, just trying to keep one tragedy from becoming more. Hopefully others can learn a lesson here about how it really is important to tighten filter properly on this car.
So right up until the car burst into flames, the owner could confidently say, I just hand tighten my filter like on every other car I've ever owned, and never had a problem. I even track my car!
Its not a problem until it is, then its a real big problem.
Note, not intending to disparage that cars owner. For all I know they torqued the filter down properly, and it still backed off due to track extremes. Don't want to pour salt on their wounds, just trying to keep one tragedy from becoming more. Hopefully others can learn a lesson here about how it really is important to tighten filter properly on this car.
#96
Right after most S2000's burst into flames, the owner can probably remember the moment when he/she tightened the oil filter by hand, made a grunting noise, and said "yep. that'll hold 'er".
#97
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This reminds me of things that apply to places where you really cannot just pull over. For airplanes that fly across the "pond", regulations require one mechanic (an individual) for each engine. That way if the guy (or gal) screws up the oil filler cap on one, he or she won't then go and screw up the other engine too. Two different people (and extremely well trainined people too) for each system.
#98
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It should be mentioned that two oil filters came off at our last track day.
One guy states “I made it as tight as I could by hand, I’ve never had a problem”
I don’t have any info on the second car.
The special design of the S2000 oil filter requires it to be tightened with a wrench. It is a metal-to-metal contact filter, just like all the nuts and bolts of the car. The gasket design has no provision to create resistance like all other filters.
One guy states “I made it as tight as I could by hand, I’ve never had a problem”
I don’t have any info on the second car.
The special design of the S2000 oil filter requires it to be tightened with a wrench. It is a metal-to-metal contact filter, just like all the nuts and bolts of the car. The gasket design has no provision to create resistance like all other filters.
#99
Ugh .... still baffles me that even when told the right (And very easy) way to do it, people still just have to be pig headed and do it by hand cause "never had a problem before".
Got to sit through the pre-press conference talk by the independent team who investigated the Columbia shuttle disaster years ago. Above all technical reasons, the root cause was found to be "yep we know that foam keeps breaking off at launch and hitting the sides and wings, but it has always done that and we have never had a problem before". They had been warned and warned by engineers for decades and blew it off. Even after the accident, the same pig headed individuals claimed it could not have caused damage because it never had. Until the team showed that when reproducing the scenario it blew a bowling ball sized hole right through the leading edge. Wanna guess about the Challenger disaster? Same root cause. People taking the "I've done it this way before and never had an issue" stance. One of the most common causes of issues out there. Humans just seem to have this completely false sense of security based solely on something not happening YET, which has no sound foundation of reason or logic.
Got to sit through the pre-press conference talk by the independent team who investigated the Columbia shuttle disaster years ago. Above all technical reasons, the root cause was found to be "yep we know that foam keeps breaking off at launch and hitting the sides and wings, but it has always done that and we have never had a problem before". They had been warned and warned by engineers for decades and blew it off. Even after the accident, the same pig headed individuals claimed it could not have caused damage because it never had. Until the team showed that when reproducing the scenario it blew a bowling ball sized hole right through the leading edge. Wanna guess about the Challenger disaster? Same root cause. People taking the "I've done it this way before and never had an issue" stance. One of the most common causes of issues out there. Humans just seem to have this completely false sense of security based solely on something not happening YET, which has no sound foundation of reason or logic.
#100
I don't honestly care what people do to their cars.
But the lack of logic behind doing it incorrectly does fascinate me. I want to know everything about these "strong wristers". Their likes, dislikes, fears, upbringing, etc.
I'd wrap my arm around their drooping shoulder while they gaze at their arthritic, scar tissue damaged wrists, and ask the all encompassing question, "what the hell is the matter with you?"
In time...perhaps...I will want to become one with them.
But the lack of logic behind doing it incorrectly does fascinate me. I want to know everything about these "strong wristers". Their likes, dislikes, fears, upbringing, etc.
I'd wrap my arm around their drooping shoulder while they gaze at their arthritic, scar tissue damaged wrists, and ask the all encompassing question, "what the hell is the matter with you?"
In time...perhaps...I will want to become one with them.
Last edited by B serious; 06-13-2019 at 10:03 AM.