Over torqued Axle nut FYI
#21
Be interesting to log how these failures are happening.
OP's car was degree'd manually. I assume with dry threads but a greased axle nut face?
As memory serves, the degree method came about because Honda's 298LB-FT fix was not enough.
So someone developed using 180LB-FT+60degrees as a field fix.
Problems with this method are likely due to variations by the operator.
My guess is that 180LB+60deg method depends on clean and dry threads. Unless you clinically cleaned the threads...they weren't dry. You'd need to brake clean and dry them thoroughly.
A little bit of grease goes a long way. So even a small amount of grease on the thread might cause the potential for tensile failure of the axle. You're already instructed to grease the face.
I think I used greased threads + 150LB with a torque wrench + 45 or 60 degrees with an impact.
I'm curious as a kitten to know how much torque it takes to go 60 degrees beyond 180LB-FT. With grease on the threads and without.
OP's car was degree'd manually. I assume with dry threads but a greased axle nut face?
As memory serves, the degree method came about because Honda's 298LB-FT fix was not enough.
So someone developed using 180LB-FT+60degrees as a field fix.
Problems with this method are likely due to variations by the operator.
My guess is that 180LB+60deg method depends on clean and dry threads. Unless you clinically cleaned the threads...they weren't dry. You'd need to brake clean and dry them thoroughly.
A little bit of grease goes a long way. So even a small amount of grease on the thread might cause the potential for tensile failure of the axle. You're already instructed to grease the face.
I think I used greased threads + 150LB with a torque wrench + 45 or 60 degrees with an impact.
I'm curious as a kitten to know how much torque it takes to go 60 degrees beyond 180LB-FT. With grease on the threads and without.
#22
Maybe the best approach is to do nothing unless/until you have the "clicking" symptom.
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LagunaPearlAP2 (06-29-2018)
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#25
There is an old saying up here in northern new england: "If it ain't broke don't fix it."
#26
ouch
Last edited by twohoos; 06-26-2018 at 10:18 AM.
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#28
Thread Starter
Used OEM axle ordered from ebay, hopefully I did not ruin the passenger side with the hamfisted approach.
Last edited by lookstoomuch; 06-25-2018 at 08:06 PM.
#29
I've seen this happen to a friends car but I don't recall if the axle was OEM or not. I've done over 10 rear axle nut TSBs and haven't seen issues with 150 ft-lbs + 60 degrees. That might be because I only go to 150 instead of 180
#30
Honda did the tsb from the 180lb to 223lb or 226lb what ever it was and does the trick in my experience anywhere between 225-250lb. The 180lb to 60 degree is the Billman method and ends up netting about 400lb!