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Old Jan 29, 2019 | 08:12 AM
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Does anyone know what the differences are on the rear subframe between 00-03,04-05 and 06-09 and if they are all interchangeable?
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Old Jan 29, 2019 | 09:04 AM
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Even Jesus knows differences between AP1 and AP2. Ancient info.

But its important (and less known) to note that the 06+ don't have the same charcoal canister mounts as previous models.

I have a 06+ subframe on my AP1. I mounted the can up with some finesse. It looks normal because I'm brilliant AF. But its only a matter of time until my smugness catches up with me.
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Old Jan 29, 2019 | 09:07 AM
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04-09 are AP2 (obviously) and take a different upper control arm. The 06-09 has a slightly different mount for the charcoal canister, but supposedly the canister can be massaged to fit. If you’re looking to swap an ap2 rear subframe into an ap1 the 04-05 will work as the charcoal canister mount is just like the 00-03. But any 04-09 subframe will work.
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Old Jan 29, 2019 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by B serious
Even Jesus knows differences between AP1 and AP2. Ancient info.

But its important (and less known) to note that the 06+ don't have the same charcoal canister mounts as previous models.

I have a 06+ subframe on my AP1. I mounted the can up with some finesse. It looks normal because I'm brilliant AF. But its only a matter of time until my smugness catches up with me.
Beat me to it while I was typing my reply!
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Old Jan 30, 2019 | 12:01 AM
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@B serious you're actually serious...aren't you B...

@Kyle I actually never knew what the canister was for! When installing my J's Racing exhaust my friend and I were under each other's cars wondering "now what do you suppose that thingy is for..."? We couldn't figure it out lol. Man I love this forum

OP: sage advice has been presented above - completely accurate
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Old Feb 23, 2019 | 05:24 AM
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Is there any difference at all between 00-03 and 04-05 rear subframes?
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Originally Posted by 2004TurboS
Is there any difference at all between 00-03 and 04-05 rear subframes?

...what in the world....
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Old Feb 23, 2019 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by B serious
...what in the world....
all I’m looking to know is if there is any difference in the bare subframes with nothing on them. Again the bare subframe.
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Old Feb 23, 2019 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 2004TurboS

all I’m looking to know is if there is any difference in the bare subframes with nothing on them. Again the bare subframe.

Yes. The 04-05 subframes differ from AP1 versions.

The UCA mounting points are not compatible.

To get the full effect, you should should pair an AP2 rear subframe with AP2 UCA's and AP2 spindles.
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Old Feb 23, 2019 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by B serious
Yes. The 04-05 subframes differ from AP1 versions.

The UCA mounting points are not compatible.

To get the full effect, you should should pair an AP2 rear subframe with AP2 UCA's and AP2 spindles.
I though the spindles were the same for all years. So that's just the front spindles then?

edit* upon further research they are in fact different. Yet the ap1 spindle will work with ap2 subframe and vice versa. Although I'm guessing its not an ideal solution since the slot for the top ball joint is different and designed to work with the ap2 geometry.
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