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Old 05-31-2008, 06:31 PM
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I didn't change my oil on my '07 until the indicator was at zero, about 5500 miles. I babied the car before then because I didn't want to burn excessive oil during the break in. Now that I've already changed the oil, what is a good time to switch to synthetic oil? I'm asking this because I changed the oil on my '01 at 1,000 miles with synthetic and the car burned about a quart every 2k miles after then. The dealer said that amount of consumption wasn't excessive. My '07 does not burn any oil and I'd like to keep it that way.
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you are suppose to use regular oil for first 10k miles. then switch to synthetic.
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Synthetic Oil Myths
Knowing that a person can never stop learning, I am always trying to better my knowledge. I was reading "Engine Builder," the magazine, and came across a great article by Pennzoil themselves.

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Myth 1: Synthetic oils are too thin to stay in the engine.

This is not true. In order for a lubricant to be classified in any SAE grade (10W-30, 10W-40, etc.) it has to meet the viscosity guidelines, or thickness, specified by the vehicle manufacturer.

Pennzoil, "Tech Notes," Engine Builder, September 2006, 16.



Myth 3: You can
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I agree with vspc2nr, modern engines are different compare to engines of 15-20 years ago. metal cast, block, ect... I asked a friend of mine in engineering, details are complex for an average guy like me. With factory oil in new engine, it is recommended that you keep it in there until the first schedule oil change. Furthermore, many reputable auto magazines reported no significance impact of switching to synthetic oil. For the s2000, it is a high compression engine. Thus it is beneficial for using synthetic oil. Once the wear occured in the engine. It is not reversible.
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i switched to synthetic on my 1st oil change.. i would have the day i got it home.. but i figure its new oil so why waste it..

http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

good reading but not sure if its any good..

also the ap2 dont burn oil like the ap1 as i have read on s2ki
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I have always idled the first 5 minutes on conventional because it's going to be cheese clothed and changed after that 5 minutes. Then it's synthetic and off to the dyno.

There is no problem with either a hard brake in or synth from the start. Those are just wives tales/internet myths. When I drag raced my motors were built and then beat from day 1 and still street driven fairly often. With the 5 minute oil change and dyno from the get go they never showed any abnormal wear after tear down 5-10k miles of abuse later.
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From everything I've read, mostly on here. 10k is when to switch. I also have a couple Honda dealer techs that are friends. They said the same. It takes that long for everything to seat properly. By the way, just switched to mobil1 on friday at 10,200 (third change). I can see the most difference when I'm warming it up. It's quieter for sure. Also had tranny fluid changed to the new Honda mtf, it's feels smoother to me, I like... Your 07, so you have it.
As far as burning oil. Our engines are designed to burn some. Mine does 1/3 qt. per 3000 miles. Up to 1qt. per 1000 miles is what honda says is ok, which is crazy... Anyway, a little burn off is a good thing (says my buds at honda), most high preformance engines do. You probably aren't burning any because you've been easy on her. You might see a little burn off now that your running her a bit harder.
Hope this this helps.
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Thanks for the info, I've noticed that after the first oil change, I've been pushing it harder, it still barely uses any oil and it's a lot more fun this way!
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Changed mine @ 1500 miles to Mobil 1 and it has never needed any between changes, which occurs once a year.
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