59 murdered, over 500 wounded
10-05-2017, 05:40 AM
#21
Thread Starter
So as not to send this to the bin, I will be brief. We are now 4 days in, and we can be sure of at least a couple of things. He was successful in business and was considered wealthy. He was considered rather normal by the people around him. He was able to purchase and maintain an "arsenal" and drew no red flags. He had a psychopathic tendency that led him to believe that he had to kill as many people as humanly possible in the shortest time possible.
Now it is possible to "equate" a reason from what we know, but no one will ever understand why he did it, since apparently only he knows, as he left no message, and any words that are not his are merely speculation. As MsP said he had "probably" targeted an pop music event earlier but couldn't get the right room, so it wasn't an attack on "country music culture". We spend way too much time wondering why and not wondering how we can prevent it in the future, except to change our entire way of life. The question becomes whose way of life needs to change to protect all of us from someone that has fallen off the edge. Someone, that no one knows has slid over the side to a bad place and would like to kill any one of us for no reason.
We can not protect our future and the future of our family, friends, and neighbors, with constant post-mortems on the "whys" when those "whys" are pure speculation at best and simply wrong at their worst.
My advice, stay out of open areas, public areas, restaurants, malls, high school football games, concerts, and elementary schools because you never know whose going to show up, what a sad day for America.
Now it is possible to "equate" a reason from what we know, but no one will ever understand why he did it, since apparently only he knows, as he left no message, and any words that are not his are merely speculation. As MsP said he had "probably" targeted an pop music event earlier but couldn't get the right room, so it wasn't an attack on "country music culture". We spend way too much time wondering why and not wondering how we can prevent it in the future, except to change our entire way of life. The question becomes whose way of life needs to change to protect all of us from someone that has fallen off the edge. Someone, that no one knows has slid over the side to a bad place and would like to kill any one of us for no reason.
We can not protect our future and the future of our family, friends, and neighbors, with constant post-mortems on the "whys" when those "whys" are pure speculation at best and simply wrong at their worst.
My advice, stay out of open areas, public areas, restaurants, malls, high school football games, concerts, and elementary schools because you never know whose going to show up, what a sad day for America.
10-05-2017, 07:23 AM
#22
I didn't know where else to put this so I will just drop it here. This is probably the saddest story I have read in a long time. This related to the Vegas tragedy:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...=.e1f780ec1f83
https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...=.e1f780ec1f83
10-05-2017, 08:39 AM
#23
So as not to send this to the bin, I will be brief. We are now 4 days in, and we can be sure of at least a couple of things. He was successful in business and was considered wealthy. He was considered rather normal by the people around him. He was able to purchase and maintain an "arsenal" and drew no red flags. He had a psychopathic tendency that led him to believe that he had to kill as many people as humanly possible in the shortest time possible.
Now it is possible to "equate" a reason from what we know, but no one will ever understand why he did it, since apparently only he knows, as he left no message, and any words that are not his are merely speculation. As MsP said he had "probably" targeted an pop music event earlier but couldn't get the right room, so it wasn't an attack on "country music culture". We spend way too much time wondering why and not wondering how we can prevent it in the future, except to change our entire way of life. The question becomes whose way of life needs to change to protect all of us from someone that has fallen off the edge. Someone, that no one knows has slid over the side to a bad place and would like to kill any one of us for no reason.
We can not protect our future and the future of our family, friends, and neighbors, with constant post-mortems on the "whys" when those "whys" are pure speculation at best and simply wrong at their worst.
My advice, stay out of open areas, public areas, restaurants, malls, high school football games, concerts, and elementary schools because you never know whose going to show up, what a sad day for America.
Now it is possible to "equate" a reason from what we know, but no one will ever understand why he did it, since apparently only he knows, as he left no message, and any words that are not his are merely speculation. As MsP said he had "probably" targeted an pop music event earlier but couldn't get the right room, so it wasn't an attack on "country music culture". We spend way too much time wondering why and not wondering how we can prevent it in the future, except to change our entire way of life. The question becomes whose way of life needs to change to protect all of us from someone that has fallen off the edge. Someone, that no one knows has slid over the side to a bad place and would like to kill any one of us for no reason.
We can not protect our future and the future of our family, friends, and neighbors, with constant post-mortems on the "whys" when those "whys" are pure speculation at best and simply wrong at their worst.
My advice, stay out of open areas, public areas, restaurants, malls, high school football games, concerts, and elementary schools because you never know whose going to show up, what a sad day for America.
10-05-2017, 07:41 PM
#24
No way can I agree. That sounds like something Howard Hughes would come up with..... you remember him and his quote "I'm not a paranoid deranged millionaire. Goddamit, I'm a billionaire."
10-06-2017, 12:34 AM
#25
What...stay isolated inside your own home all of the time, and never go anywhere ever?
Don't ever go to any open and public areas? Don't ever go to restaurants, malls, football games, concerts?
What if you have children...homeschool them?
Don't have a job outside of the home? (I worked at large universities for over 37 years, and there were several incidents of violence where people were killed.)
How about going to churches, synagogues, gyms, grocery stores, colleges, movies, cultural events, etc?
The list is endless where violence has occurred and many people have been killed. To me, it would be impossible to stay away from everywhere that violence might occur.
10-06-2017, 12:45 AM
#26
^ Sue - I think Ken was being facetious. Right, Ken? For the record, I'm not staying away from anywhere I want to go. That's why I made my reservation for our trip to Paris in spite of the Bataclan attack. The only country I've written off pretty much that I used to travel to is Mexico. Too much ongoing drug violence there. I remember how much fun my ex and I had in Acapulco at the end of a cruise from San Juan many years ago (through the Panama Canal). Both places now off the list for different reasons. It is very sad.
Last edited by MsPerky; 10-06-2017 at 01:18 AM.
10-06-2017, 02:02 AM
#28
The sad truth is that nothing ever changes. For a few days America will grieve, discuss gun control, discuss mental illness, wonder what makes a person do this, and read about the victims. The grieving families will bury their dead and someone might even erect a monument. But than the next story comes along and America shifts its attention to it and all is forgotten. Forgotten until the next mass shooting comes along and we go through the cycle again. But nothing ever changes.
10-06-2017, 03:57 AM
#29
10-06-2017, 04:31 AM
#30
Yeah, we kinda miss you in Politics. 