dlq04

Thanks Gene..... I trust you and your butt but not with my life, so I have to agree.

Chuck S

It's impossible, of course, to fly a modern airliner by stick and rudder. There's no mechanical connections to the control surfaces, it's all done by computers. Same as playing a flight simulator on your PC. The software or firmware in the system is paramount. Stuff happens but so infrequently it's a credit to the engineers who design these systems.

Gotta trust the instruments. I've only flown into instrument conditions exactly one (1) time and that was by accident flying west across a large lake one hazy August afternoon and the horizon simply disappeared. Was all grey everywhere. "Two minute turn" for an hour-long 30 seconds brought me around where the horizon started to reappear as I retraced my path. I had trouble detaching the seat cushion from my butt when I landed I was gripping it so tight. This was at maybe 120 knots, not 600.

-- Chuck

cosmomiller

tof

Thanks for bringing a smile to a pretty grim topic, Cos.

Question: How much disruption to U.S airline service has grounding all those Max-8's caused?

zeroptzero

criminal charges really need to be considered here, there has to be a number of people at Boeing who knew what was going on behind the scenes. When the first plane crashed people at Boeing knew exactly happened, it is bad enough the first plane went down, the second plane going down is downright criminal. Knowing about the design flaws and not advising your clients is wrong on so many fronts, bad enough on an automobile but a multi-million dollar plane that will carry millions of people over it's lifespan. There is a cover-up going on at Boeing over this and it is because they fear potential criminal prosecution if the truth ever comes out. I thanked my lucky stars when my Max 8 plane got grounded the night before I was supposed to fly home in March. When I took computer class over 30 years ago they always talked about "garbage in equals garbage out", this seems like a good example of that saying. Sorry for sounding a bit harsh but this is much more than some innocent mistake. The victims' families will find out that it all could have been avoided when the facts eventually come out. This is so sad.

Kyras

3-28-2019. Phew! I made it from Denver, CO to Orlando, Florida today. I never worry about flying unless stormy weather is predicted. Because of this plane though, well that and being in humidity and "heat", I was having nightmares all night last night. Shrimp and a glass of wine and I'm good, now.

jukngene

Patty, Southwest has grounded all 737 Max8 planes. I am sure you were in a 737-800, which is not affected by this issue.

Flying magazine has an update on the Max: https://www.flyingmag.com/boeing-pro...&mid=478740552

Kyras

Good to know. I trust Southwest.

tof

From the article linked by Cos.

zeroptzero

I think some airlines are putting 737 max 8 literature in non-max 8 planes to brag about them flying the most modern versions of the 737 promoting lower fuel consumption and lower carbon foot prints and lower noise levels. I thought I was on a Max 8 plane last month due to the literature that was placed in every seat (much like what you see in that Southwest plane) , but was a non Max 8 737.