A car problem that I need some help with
02-21-2019, 05:30 PM
#41
= Kidding or sarcastic
02-21-2019, 07:00 PM
#43
From his initial post, "As you know I own a 2017 Civic Si. I have about 15,600 miles on it and I love the car. Unfortunately in the last two weeks a problem has developed that neither I nor Honda can figure out."
02-21-2019, 07:09 PM
#44
02-22-2019, 03:45 AM
#45
Current sarcasm level is at 8.
02-23-2019, 06:42 AM
#47
02-23-2019, 07:29 AM
#48
Thread Starter
As mysteriously as the problem occurred it seems to have disappeared. For the last three mornings, the car started right up without a problem. Granted, the temperature has been a little more mild, but 3 days ago the temperature was 25*f and the car started. The morning before it was exactly the same 25*f and the starter wouldn't turn over.
I hope the problem is solved. I still don't have any idea what it was, nor does Joyce Honda, but if the problem is solved I'm happily in love with my Si again. Except for this problem I love my Si.
Thanks for all the comments and suggestions. If the problem reoccurs I'll post it. This spring, when it gets a little warmer I intend to get under the car to see if there is any corrosion or loose connections. I I can convince Adam to spend a weekend back home in New Jersey I'll have him under the car with me to examine it.
I hope the problem is solved. I still don't have any idea what it was, nor does Joyce Honda, but if the problem is solved I'm happily in love with my Si again. Except for this problem I love my Si.
Thanks for all the comments and suggestions. If the problem reoccurs I'll post it. This spring, when it gets a little warmer I intend to get under the car to see if there is any corrosion or loose connections. I I can convince Adam to spend a weekend back home in New Jersey I'll have him under the car with me to examine it.
02-26-2019, 09:14 AM
#49
Actually, all of the Civics basically share the same engine...1.5L Turbo, DI engine. The Type R is the only different one, with a 2.0 Turbo, also direct injection engine. The 1.5 is an "L" engine, sharing a lot of similarities with the Fit and CRZ of previous generations. In fact, it even takes some technology from the R18 engine found in older non Si Civics.
Before you nix the Civics for DI, you should know that the Fiat 500, Mini Cooper, both have DI engines. In fact, most engines now have DI...Honda, Hyundai, BMW, Audi, VW, Nissan, Mopar, Cadillac, Buick, Chevy. Yes, even the big Vortec and LS engines use DI.
To me, it sounds like this issue is with the starter motor. It starts sometimes, sometimes doesn't, which indicates a faulty starter solenoid (either frozen or corroded), or dirt/debris inside the windings of the starter. Did the starter "click" when you pushed the button? It should try to start for about 10 seconds before giving up, and, if it is a low battery issue, you'll see the dash flicker and hear an audible click (the relay contacting then losing power).
Before you nix the Civics for DI, you should know that the Fiat 500, Mini Cooper, both have DI engines. In fact, most engines now have DI...Honda, Hyundai, BMW, Audi, VW, Nissan, Mopar, Cadillac, Buick, Chevy. Yes, even the big Vortec and LS engines use DI.
To me, it sounds like this issue is with the starter motor. It starts sometimes, sometimes doesn't, which indicates a faulty starter solenoid (either frozen or corroded), or dirt/debris inside the windings of the starter. Did the starter "click" when you pushed the button? It should try to start for about 10 seconds before giving up, and, if it is a low battery issue, you'll see the dash flicker and hear an audible click (the relay contacting then losing power).
My comment about choices was about what's really left in the Coupe class with MT. There just isn't much, and as you say, most if not all are going the same direction with DI, so it becomes irrelevant as its almost constant across the class.
I am curious what a "short" trip is. It is going 4 driveways down the street? Is it a mile? Is it 5 miles? My drive to work is about 8 miles. The grocery store we like is 4 miles, sometimes at lunch, it's less than a mile, but in general, I'm driving 8-10 at minimum any time. I would also think the issue gets worse when the "short" trips are repeated, every day, multiple times, over months and years, not a few times a week? Just no standard for the term makes it tough. Is my normal drive enough time to warm the engine up?
It's also clear that cold weather seems to be a factor, but what's cold. Michigan on average would be colder than NJ. Does the 20's in February matter that much over the long haul? As Rob says, besides this issue, he hasn't had other issues.
This has been an interesting thread. Lots of info and lots of perspectives. Thanks all...
I'm still on the fence. No dealer near me has a 2019 Sport 6MT in stock. My registration and inspection is due this week for the Altima. Was hoping to not have to deal with it, but I think I do and a new car will wait until probably closer to the summer.
02-26-2019, 10:18 AM
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