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Old 09-25-2013, 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ralper
Originally Posted by RMurphy' timestamp='1380078234' post='22795117
You have oh-so-much more faith in the end users I support than I do. LOL!

They will eventually deal with it. I'm just not going to start pressing them to do so until 8.1 is well and truly out, and that's pretty soon.

And I wasn't offended by your comments or anything. I knew you didn't mean it badly or anything like that.
I hope they haven't removed the "Metro" gui in favor of a start button. I hope 8.1 has both.
I'm running the 8.1 beta in a VMWare virtual on my iMac and it has both interfaces, Rob. (you know there were about 20 different people who developed a third-party Start button for Win8.0 right?).
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Originally Posted by kgf3076
Originally Posted by ralper' timestamp='1380078736' post='22795128
[quote name='RMurphy' timestamp='1380078234' post='22795117']
You have oh-so-much more faith in the end users I support than I do. LOL!

They will eventually deal with it. I'm just not going to start pressing them to do so until 8.1 is well and truly out, and that's pretty soon.

And I wasn't offended by your comments or anything. I knew you didn't mean it badly or anything like that.
I hope they haven't removed the "Metro" gui in favor of a start button. I hope 8.1 has both.
I'm running the 8.1 beta in a VMWare virtual on my iMac and it has both interfaces, Rob. (you know there were about 20 different people who developed a third-party Start button for Win8.0 right?).
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I do know I just didn't bother with it.

How do you like 8.1?
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can you run win8 as a virtual machine on win 7?
Old 09-25-2013, 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ralper
Originally Posted by kgf3076' timestamp='1380096981' post='22795328
[quote name='ralper' timestamp='1380078736' post='22795128']
[quote name='RMurphy' timestamp='1380078234' post='22795117']
You have oh-so-much more faith in the end users I support than I do. LOL!

They will eventually deal with it. I'm just not going to start pressing them to do so until 8.1 is well and truly out, and that's pretty soon.

And I wasn't offended by your comments or anything. I knew you didn't mean it badly or anything like that.
I hope they haven't removed the "Metro" gui in favor of a start button. I hope 8.1 has both.
I'm running the 8.1 beta in a VMWare virtual on my iMac and it has both interfaces, Rob. (you know there were about 20 different people who developed a third-party Start button for Win8.0 right?).
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I do know I just didn't bother with it.

How do you like 8.1?
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It's okay. More derivative than progressive. Works like Windows so we won't have problems with users who are still stuck in the Win95 era.
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Originally Posted by boltonblue
can you run win8 as a virtual machine on win 7?
If you have the disk space, memory and VMWare (or any of the other virtual machine software available), sure. I run Ubuntu, Win 8.1, Win 7 Ultimate, and Mac Server under VMWare.
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Originally Posted by kgf3076
Originally Posted by boltonblue' timestamp='1380104933' post='22795402
can you run win8 as a virtual machine on win 7?
If you have the disk space, memory and VMWare (or any of the other virtual machine software available), sure. I run Ubuntu, Win 8.1, Win 7 Ultimate, and Mac Server under VMWare.
I run Virtual Box (what do you expect from a Sun/Oracle employee!) on my Mac Book Pro and Mac Mini. I have various virtual machines running at any given time: Win7, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS and AIX (lol).

The Mac Mini has 16GB memory and a 1TB Fusion drive. The Fusion drive is really just an SSD sitting on top of an HD. I've had the Mini for about a year now and still cannot get over how fast it runs, even with multiple VMs running at the same time.
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You can get the 8.1 preview here, for those who want to try it out.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...-8/preview-iso

I downloaded it over the weekend, but haven't set it up on anything yet.

Originally Posted by boltonblue
can you run win8 as a virtual machine on win 7?
You know, I hadn't considered that, but I can't think of any good reason why you couldn't install it on Windows Virtual PC that comes with Win7. So long as the PC you are running Win7 on has enough RAM and HD space, it should be quite doable. Excellent for testing it out, learning, etc.
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What you all are talking about.
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What you all are talking about.
Sorry. We slipped into geek speak on you. Not really hypercritical stuff.

Basically, your fan on full issues could be caused be a vast array of things and it's the sort of thing that we can conjecture on and maybe hit the mark, but it's best if a tech person were to lay hands on it. A remote session may be helpful, but unless the cause is a settings adjustment, the remote session may end up a bust. For instance, if it's a matter of dust build up on the fans and case openings (seems unlikely to be the root cause if the fans actually slow down once you move the mouse and create any sort of "use" activity on the PC, but for the sake of discussion...), then a remote session won't really do much.

If I were a betting woman (which I'm not), I wouldn't suspect dust build up to be the root cause. That stated, home environments -- particularly with pets (cat hair is the worst!!) in them, are very very hard on PCs when it comes to dust build-up inside the case. WAY worse than just about any office environment I've ever seen (note that I said just about... there have been a couple of exceptions). So regardless, it's good practice to run a vacuum over at least the exterior of your PC case and the various ventilation spots on it every so often to minimize dust build-up.
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i GUESS MY NON-TECH USE OF THE WORD bINGO WASN'T CLEAR. wHEN i DID A RIGHT CLICK ON THE TOP AREA OF THE PAGE i WAS TRYING TO CHANGE, i WAS ALLOWED TO MAKE CHANGES.
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