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Prior to my transition to Das Automobil I had a couple Mazda's.
I always thought the cars were tuned towards performance, good acceleration and handling feedback.
Before Honda released the new CR-V John Cadogan did this video about Mazda’s OD problem. His statements are very clear, and sometimes funny depending on your sense of humor, on what you can expect from a properly working GDI engine versus one that is defective.
Personally I think Honda's so-called-fix in the northern states was just a way of lessening the amount of OD due to very cold climate conditions and to increase cabin heat. It worked for many people because those people did not have defective engines. For those unlucky few who have defective engines it cannot fix that problem.
They are fighting a loosing battle as Honda evidently knows what caused the problem in those vehicles and has been tightening the production quality year after year to lessen the chances of any vehicle having the issue.
Maybe the original problem was sloppy ring tolerances checks and Honda now makes sure that the tolerances are double checked on newer vehicles. Maybe it was a 0.1% case of leaking injectors and Honda went back to the manufacturer and had them redesign the injectors so it only has a .001% chance of being defective. I don’t claim to know. It appears there are less 2019 owners reporting the problem. Still a new 2019 owner just made his first post after learning of the issue and said his oil level was above the orange dipstick with a mere 300 miles on the car.
Thanks, this is my replacement for the 2016 Civic Touring - the blue one lol. Oddly enough Subaru was willing to pay more for my trade than the Honda dealer where I bought and maintained my Civic. When I bought the Civic my Honda sales manager told me the car would be worth more on the back end sale because I bought an extended warranty, and lifetime rustproofing. But they weren't willing to pay an extra penny for it when it came time to trade it in, so I went with Subaru who paid more for it. .
yes the vehicles listed are covered for 6 years instead of 5 on the engine side of things. I don't think the extra one year is good enough, they should have gone longer to put their money where their mouth is. The statement that abnormal oil dilution has been rare is a total fallacy, there are countless reports of people having the issue. Honda does not test your oil for fuel dilution , and most people don't have their oil tested in used oil analyses. People who had the issue of rising oil levels most definitely had fuel dilution issues, it takes an extreme amount of fuel to make your oil level rise, abnormal fuel dilution is anything 4% or greater, and that is approaching dangerous levels.
I think the long term reliability of this engine will be poor, that is just my estimate, and definitely nothing like past Honda NA engines. Some people have said that Honda China has stopped selling the engine over there ? I chose to sell my Civic rather than be a guinea pig, because it took them well over 2 years to even admit to an issue, some of us had driven quite a few miles on our cars by that time, and the Civic has a very long oil change interval time (based on the OLM). I don't know if they will warranty the turbo for 6 years unlimited, or just the engine, but if an engine doesn't like high fuel levels the turbo won't either.
I'm glad my Honda HR-V has an 1.8 l NA motor, and not direct injected, I plan to pile the miles onto that vehicle for work purposes.
04-29-2019, 04:17 PM
