I don't know. I was in New York City all day. Had lunch at our favorite Chinese restaurant (not fast food). I'm about as non-controversial as can be right now. I was hoping you or Carm would come up with a good one.

 

I agree. I am not speaking of neglect. I said that adults are always responsible for THEIR actions. I did not manufacture the Corvair. I did not make a faulty product. If I bought the product having some knowledge of its unsafeness, then I am responsible. Corvair's manufactures are making a faulty product. If you are given information that the product might be unsafe, then if you decide to buy it and it wrecks, you cannot hold them liable, even if they did manufacture a faulty vehicle. The manufacture of that car is not my action. I said that if it really was their fault, everyone would get sucked into the lie (Everyone who bought a Corvair with the faulty axil design would wreck).

Fast food people have never said that fast food is healthy or will not make you fat. So, that is a given. They are not neglectful. You are 100% responsible.

Eve was told the truth to begin with and then decided to believe Satan's lie. Therefore, she is responsible for her action to believe.

As for the doctors and prescriptions, I suppose I did not word that correctly. What I mean is that doctors are prescribing because their patients want a prescription in order to feel that they are being treated. The doc wants to make them happy so they will come back to see him. Drug companies are marketing to the individual not the doctors and the individual is requesting those drugs that are marketed to them (the individual). We should be going to the doctor and letting the doctor prescribe what he believes we need, not what the drug companies say we need to have. I need to be able to express what I believe in a more concise manner. I will work on that.

 

[QUOTE=uppitychick,Jan 16 2005, 08:36 PM]
Fast food people have never said that fast food is healthy or will not make you fat.

 

Not 100% of course, but, Yes, I do believe that; and, Yes, our healthcare system is in dire need of repair!!

Fast food. We have a food pyramid that has been in existance for a long time. We learn it in elementary school. Fast food is not on that pyramid. I have not heard them claim they are in accordance with that pyramid, or maybe I have not been listening.

 

Just a few months ago KFC got slapped by either the FTC/FDA for running ads that claimed that their fried chicken was healthier than the big chain burgers.
I've oftened wondered why it is that if I made such a claim it would be considered lying, but when a commercial enterprise does it, it's "just good marketing".
I'm with Chaz in that I believe that everything should be legal, but I also believe that those who sell and market products should be held to same standards of conduct as the rest of us.

Dean

 

OK folks... let's go to the other extreme. Gambling.

EVERYONE knows that gambling is risky and you can lose your money. They also know that when they walk into a casino, the odds are that they'll leave losers. For some reason, millions of people walk in and lose their money at casinos every day.

The state of Nevada employs hundreds of people to insure that casino games are completely unrigged. Slot machines have to pay out a certain minimum of what they take in, and the gaming commission has investigators everywhere to insure that the suckers lose their $$ "fairly".

Sure you can argue that the tax revenue the casinos bring in makes it a profitable endeavor to make sure that the public has faith in the casinos honesty, but then you'd basically be saying that the government puts profitability above the common good, and I'm sure none of you would say that!

People know they're probably going to lose, but they want to at least know the real odds going in. That's what the gaming commission does. They don't prohibit people from gambling, they just make sure the suckers know what they're getting.

I think it should be no different with fast food. It's not the government's place to tell us what to eat, but at least they can let us suckers know what it is we're really eating.

What if McDonalds was putting an additive in their burgers that made them addictive? (I have my suspicions about the McRib)

How about drug companies who refuse to pull their products off the market, even after they are proven deadly. Why is it Merck had the decency to remove Vioxx, but Pfizer decided to keep Celebrex in distribution because they hadn't made enough off it yet?

Clearly, some senior officers/companies do feel a sense of responsibility towards their customers, just as clearly as others don't. While our regulations may be some of the most difficult and cumbersome in the world, I'm sure glad somebody's watching these corporations.

 

Me too.

 

Uppity,

Do you have any fact, commentary or experience to back this up, or is this just your gut feeling?

 

That should be interesting.

For the record, I'm not actually enough of a conspiracy theorist to believe that the doctors and drug companies are purposely manipulating bacterial resistance to antibiotics just to sell more drugs.

I do believe that:

- a lot of doctors overprescribe antibiotics because they've decided it's easier to placate a patient by giving him a useless pill that potentially causes more resistant bacteria in the future than to listen to complaining from patients that don't want to be told that all they can do is get plenty of rest and drink plenty of fluids.

- the drug companies and doctors often prescribe expensive drugs that are still under patent rather than inexpensive or even over the counter drugs that are just as effective, resulting in much higher health care costs than are actually necessary.

My personal response to the former is ask the doctor whether I actually need the antibiotics; often the doctor will admit the answer is "no".

The latter is tougher to handle, as it requires independently keeping abreast of medical information that ought to be the doctor's job. But yes, if I ever get a heart attack, I will question the doctor on whether aspirin might not be just as effective as whatever expensive medicine gets prescribed. It seems to me that HMOs, who have an interest in keeping needless expenses down, ought to be asking these questions as well, but it seems the malpractice lawyers have them cowed.

 

[QUOTE=ralper,Jan 16 2005, 03:56 PM]Am I responsible for flipping the car, or perhaps, should General Motors be held responsible for bringing a car to market in good faith with the strength of their reputation behind it, knowing that its design was dangerous?