Mork is gone!
08-12-2014, 03:53 PM
#21
Not mine but I agree with it.
The state of our mental health system is abysmal.
40 years ago they " fixed" all of the abuses of the existing mental health hospital system by simply getting rid of it.
The did not replace it with anything functional. The remaining balance between the legal system and medical field is abysmal.
but no one talks about the dirty little secret.
It is virtually impossible to get help for a mentally ill individual who is drifting.
Unless they are waiving a knife or threatening to jump off a bridge they are OK on their own.
So one day they are fine until they have finally crossed the barrier of "imminent danger" then they go into full lock-down treatment under forced medication until sometime later when the medication has done it's job and they are no longer "dangerous".
At this point they're OK again and get kicked loose all over again waiting to start the next cycle of treat and release.
There is no middle ground to enforce treatment.
Of course the insurance companies don't want anything to do with psychiatric treatment because there are no good metrics for progress and it's just a money pit.
go ahead, Ask me how I really feel.....
The state of our mental health system is abysmal.
40 years ago they " fixed" all of the abuses of the existing mental health hospital system by simply getting rid of it.
The did not replace it with anything functional. The remaining balance between the legal system and medical field is abysmal.
but no one talks about the dirty little secret.
It is virtually impossible to get help for a mentally ill individual who is drifting.
Unless they are waiving a knife or threatening to jump off a bridge they are OK on their own.
So one day they are fine until they have finally crossed the barrier of "imminent danger" then they go into full lock-down treatment under forced medication until sometime later when the medication has done it's job and they are no longer "dangerous".
At this point they're OK again and get kicked loose all over again waiting to start the next cycle of treat and release.
There is no middle ground to enforce treatment.
Of course the insurance companies don't want anything to do with psychiatric treatment because there are no good metrics for progress and it's just a money pit.
go ahead, Ask me how I really feel.....
08-12-2014, 04:17 PM
#22
^
It is a sorry state of affairs.
It is a sorry state of affairs.
08-12-2014, 05:48 PM
#23
To go in asking for help after admitting yourself..... and not getting any followup with a psychiatrist..... not knowing how you can help yourself...
Well... all I can say is that our "system" for helping people with disabilities needs a complete overhaul!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
08-12-2014, 06:04 PM
#24
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The state of our mental health system is abysmal.
40 years ago they " fixed" all of the abuses of the existing mental health hospital system by simply getting rid of it.
The did not replace it with anything functional. The remaining balance between the legal system and medical field is abysmal.
but no one talks about the dirty little secret.
It is virtually impossible to get help for a mentally ill individual who is drifting.
Unless they are waiving a knife or threatening to jump off a bridge they are OK on their own.
So one day they are fine until they have finally crossed the barrier of "imminent danger" then they go into full lock-down treatment under forced medication until sometime later when the medication has done it's job and they are no longer "dangerous".
At this point they're OK again and get kicked loose all over again waiting to start the next cycle of treat and release.
There is no middle ground to enforce treatment.
Of course the insurance companies don't want anything to do with psychiatric treatment because there are no good metrics for progress and it's just a money pit.
go ahead, Ask me how I really feel.....
40 years ago they " fixed" all of the abuses of the existing mental health hospital system by simply getting rid of it.
The did not replace it with anything functional. The remaining balance between the legal system and medical field is abysmal.
but no one talks about the dirty little secret.
It is virtually impossible to get help for a mentally ill individual who is drifting.
Unless they are waiving a knife or threatening to jump off a bridge they are OK on their own.
So one day they are fine until they have finally crossed the barrier of "imminent danger" then they go into full lock-down treatment under forced medication until sometime later when the medication has done it's job and they are no longer "dangerous".
At this point they're OK again and get kicked loose all over again waiting to start the next cycle of treat and release.
There is no middle ground to enforce treatment.
Of course the insurance companies don't want anything to do with psychiatric treatment because there are no good metrics for progress and it's just a money pit.
go ahead, Ask me how I really feel.....
I believe that socialized or public health services and care centers have their advantages. However, I’m not certain that Robin Williams or his family would have inquired or benefited from state supported health services.
I see your point though; a person should use these services (they still exist but not to the extent of the past) if there’s an obvious aggressive or destructive mind-set towards others or oneself. A destructive mental state doesn’t appear to have surfaced in Robin’s case.
gary
08-12-2014, 06:15 PM
#25
I don't know, maybe it has something to do with being a celebrity and being in the public eye. I just read an article a few days ago (on MSN) about teenage stars of the 60s, 70s, and 80s and how all of them fell into either drug or alcohol addiction, and for the most part the addiction ended their careers.
I don't know if that's what happened to Robin Williams, or if the depression was somehow brought on because of being a celebrity and constantly in the public eye, but for all of those aspiring to be stars the old adage still applies, "Be careful of what you wish for because you might get it".
I don't know if that's what happened to Robin Williams, or if the depression was somehow brought on because of being a celebrity and constantly in the public eye, but for all of those aspiring to be stars the old adage still applies, "Be careful of what you wish for because you might get it".
08-13-2014, 09:49 AM
#26
For those looking for some "insight" into this, please listen to this spot from NPR with Dick Cavett's insight.
http://www.npr.org/2014/08/12/339878...steps-offstage
http://www.npr.org/2014/08/12/339878...steps-offstage
08-13-2014, 12:17 PM
#27
Originally Posted by Emil St-Hilaire
On the news,they said,he hung himself. I don't understand,can't understand;Rich and Famous,relatively young,and desperate.
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-c...n/faq-20057770
Nevertheless sad to see him go. I enjoyed many of his shows and movies. My favorite was his guest appearances on Happy Days as Mork.
08-13-2014, 01:02 PM
#28
Originally Posted by Emil St-Hilaire
On the news,they said,he hung himself. I don't understand,can't understand;Rich and Famous,relatively young,and desperate.
Robin sadly did hang himself with a belt, and not an over-dose as many may have thought.
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