Neighborhood Associations
#11
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Rick makes an excellent point about the community aspect. I wish there were a way to regulate this but there isn't. I remember when we were younger and had our 1st house built. We were all up and coming yuppies I guess and we were over each others houses constantly. Playing cards, parties, getting the small kids together, whatever. Where I am now you're lucky if someone waves to you.
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Originally posted by ralper
To agree with Carmen, being on the Board of Directors was a thankless job, and any decision we made angered and upset someone.
My experience was similar to both of yours in that 5% of the residents caused 95% of the problems.
To agree with Carmen, being on the Board of Directors was a thankless job, and any decision we made angered and upset someone.
My experience was similar to both of yours in that 5% of the residents caused 95% of the problems.
Thanks, Rob, for another perspective. Either vertical or horizontal development brings along similar problems!
#13
Originally posted by OhioRacer
Rick makes an excellent point about the community aspect. I wish there were a way to regulate this but there isn't. I remember when we were younger and had our 1st house built. We were all up and coming yuppies I guess and we were over each others houses constantly. Playing cards, parties, getting the small kids together, whatever. Where I am now you're lucky if someone waves to you.
Rick makes an excellent point about the community aspect. I wish there were a way to regulate this but there isn't. I remember when we were younger and had our 1st house built. We were all up and coming yuppies I guess and we were over each others houses constantly. Playing cards, parties, getting the small kids together, whatever. Where I am now you're lucky if someone waves to you.
Here in the suburbs, some communities are cold and have no soul (mine is like this) while others have a very strong sense of community. I wonder what makes the "magic" happen.
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ralper,
That was my experience when we lived in a coop in NYC. You saw people in the elevators, lobby, and hallways and no one every said boo to anyone else. Very cold.
I think the "magic" is a core group of people who give their hearts to the community and reach out to others. Also it helps to have a mix of ages and activities for children that bring families together. Rules and regulations do not a community make
That was my experience when we lived in a coop in NYC. You saw people in the elevators, lobby, and hallways and no one every said boo to anyone else. Very cold.
I think the "magic" is a core group of people who give their hearts to the community and reach out to others. Also it helps to have a mix of ages and activities for children that bring families together. Rules and regulations do not a community make
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Rick Hesel
ralper,
I think the "magic" is a core group of people who give their hearts to the community and reach out to others.
ralper,
I think the "magic" is a core group of people who give their hearts to the community and reach out to others.
#16
Like Carmen, we have a "double dose" of Neighborhood Assn...one in South Central PA with 6 cottages on 26 acres, and one in an older Philly suburb with 34 houses. Both were developed around 1915-20 and have some Historical connections.
Interestingly, both have a really strong sense of community; obligation to maintain common areas; shared seasonal "work days" and community events (potluck suppers, BBQs, kids parties); at least annual official meetings; but NO legal standing that forces people to comply with rules/regulations. All cooperation is handled by consensus/ peer group action...occasional cajoling
The annual dues are $150 in the country and $350 here in the Philly suburbs. In each case, this pays for maintenance of private roads; snow plowing; landscape/ tree maintenance in common areas; liability insurance, etc. While not legally enforceable, we rarely have a problem with collections.
In general, it's pretty neat....just like the S2000 Community. We know 100% of the people at our cottage very well, and about 90% here in the 'burbs. Maybe we would like co-housing more than Carmen
[QUOTE]Originally posted by jukngene
In keeping with the General format of this forum, I would like to hear some of our member's opinions of neighborhood associations, both good and bad.
My questions: What are the annual dues for Associations in your area? How do you enforce Deed Restrictions? How do we put "teeth"
Interestingly, both have a really strong sense of community; obligation to maintain common areas; shared seasonal "work days" and community events (potluck suppers, BBQs, kids parties); at least annual official meetings; but NO legal standing that forces people to comply with rules/regulations. All cooperation is handled by consensus/ peer group action...occasional cajoling
The annual dues are $150 in the country and $350 here in the Philly suburbs. In each case, this pays for maintenance of private roads; snow plowing; landscape/ tree maintenance in common areas; liability insurance, etc. While not legally enforceable, we rarely have a problem with collections.
In general, it's pretty neat....just like the S2000 Community. We know 100% of the people at our cottage very well, and about 90% here in the 'burbs. Maybe we would like co-housing more than Carmen
[QUOTE]Originally posted by jukngene
In keeping with the General format of this forum, I would like to hear some of our member's opinions of neighborhood associations, both good and bad.
My questions: What are the annual dues for Associations in your area? How do you enforce Deed Restrictions? How do we put "teeth"
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I couldn't help but think about the community online here, especially the Vintage one...Hmmmm.
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I was a Realtor for several years and I can tell you that once C,C&Rs are violated, there is no going back. Violated and nothing done sets a precedente. How can you enforce some and not others? Once it's gone, it's gone. The entire document becomes worthless unless the violations are violations of federal law. I've seen C,C&Rs restricting ownership by race and religion. Imagine that.
This is precisely why I couldn't live in a Co0p. It just doesn't work.
This is precisely why I couldn't live in a Co0p. It just doesn't work.
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I ran into a lengthy thread about this subject on another board. It got started because the neighborhood did not allow motorcycles.
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