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Old 01-05-2018, 11:26 AM
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If you photoshop it, is it still art?
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If you photoshop it, is it still art?
Depends who you ask!
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Old 01-06-2018, 12:06 PM
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Took a few winter themed photos...it's all my area has to offer right now.


Historic cotton mill in the snow


No one watching the ocean today.


Danger!


Iced in


Damn it's cold!


Trying to keep warm
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Old 01-06-2018, 06:52 PM
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If you photoshop it, is it still art?
And by that I mean change the content. If you just use photoshop to do typical photo enhancement like filters, cropping, etc, that you can do with a thousand free photo apps, then I would say that you can still take credit for the shot and call it art. If you change the content you have to produce something really special that conveys a vision of the subject in order for it to qualify as art. But what do I know? I had one semester of art appreciation in High School.
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Old 01-07-2018, 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by tof View Post
And by that I mean change the content. If you just use photoshop to do typical photo enhancement like filters, cropping, etc, that you can do with a thousand free photo apps, then I would say that you can still take credit for the shot and call it art. If you change the content you have to produce something really special that conveys a vision of the subject in order for it to qualify as art. But what do I know? I had one semester of art appreciation in High School.
That subject is debated often in photo forums. Is is still a photograph if you have totally changed the look of the shot by adding layers, different colors, inserted images. It's still an art form but can you claim your prowess as a photographer with manipulated photos?

I don't have to worry about that. My editing skills are most basic. I did make a couple trash cans disappear in a photo, cloned them into rocks with snow. That makes me happy.
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Old 01-07-2018, 05:57 AM
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Was going to the river to take some pics this am, but it's still too cold - windchill of 13 right now. Maybe tomorrow am before the warmup.
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Originally Posted by Lainey View Post
That subject is debated often in photo forums. Is is still a photograph if you have totally changed the look of the shot by adding layers, different colors, inserted images. It's still an art form but can you claim your prowess as a photographer with manipulated photos?

I don't have to worry about that. My editing skills are most basic. I did make a couple trash cans disappear in a photo, cloned them into rocks with snow. That makes me happy.
In my mind there is no debate. Through out the ages artists worked with and used the tools that were available to them at the time. When it comes to oil painting, for example, they copied others work, they did tracings, they had others rough in background detail, they worked from photographs, etc. In other words, they did whatever they felt comfortable with to better their craft. The challenge is to arrive at the envisioned final product, no matter the route to get there.
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Photographers have worked all kinds of magic in the darkroom for years. Now they sit in from of the computer and do the same thing.
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Originally Posted by dlq04 View Post
In my mind there is no debate. Through out the ages artists worked with and used the tools that were available to them at the time. When it comes to oil painting, for example, they copied others work, they did tracings, they had others rough in background detail, they worked from photographs, etc. In other words, they did whatever they felt comfortable with to better their craft. The challenge is to arrive at the envisioned final product, no matter the route to get there.
Well said, Dave. Why accept mediocrity with art.
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#1 Trash cans, partial picnic table, a sign...

Cropped a bit, better position of the building, removes picnic table and the clone tool gets rid of the little bit of the sign on the left and makes trash cans into snow covered rocks.
Re-sized for easier posting here. Learning light room maybe photoshop is on retirement bucket list.
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