Cusco 6 Point Roll cage
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Originally Posted by Dressed2Kill,Apr 29 2007, 01:32 PM
Heres you "dead weight" safty 21 bar after a 70+ foot fall off the road. It looks like the only part of the car that held up. Notice how none of the bars broke off and hit him in the head, I would say that that works pretty darn good for a "show purpose" roll bar. I know welded bars are better, but you guys really underestimate the cusco/safty21 bars.
Originally Posted by PoLe_PoSiTiOn,Apr 29 2007, 05:58 PM
woah that does look like S2000GT's car up above. the roll bar held up, but did it actually help this driver from serious harm?
to the rollbar for thatHope the guy is ok as well!
Originally Posted by XclusiveAutosports,Apr 29 2007, 05:15 PM
That isn't s2000gt's car is it?!?!? 
I hope the driver was ok.
BTW, nice post... looks like the roll bar held up great , look at the windshield!
I hope the driver was ok.BTW, nice post... looks like the roll bar held up great
, look at the windshield!The only thing on that car that wasn't tweaked was the roll bar.
I was part of the group drive that saw S2000GT's car getting towed away. It serves as a reminder that no matter how good of a driver you are, roads like the Dragon can do terrible things to you and your car. People who say these bars and cages are dead weight have never seen an accident like this. I saw it first hand, and that roll bar saved his life. $600-$1,000 is a lot of money, but after that accident a roll bar or cage will definitely be my next mod. Hopefully Lee's wife will let him come back in September.
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The OP asked about a 6 pt cage. What was shown in the pics above is a 4 pt bar behind the driver. There is a reason all cars that compete professionaly in races have welded cages and not bolted joints. Big difference in safety. Unless you are wearing a harness and/or helmet you can kiss your head goodbye. Same goes for cf doors they should only be put on a car with a full cage with side bars but that's another topic.
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There are safety concerns with these cages, yes. But I've never seen anything documenting these "concerns" that people have. I say do what you want, it's your car, have fun. Don't listen to the people telling you how to build YOUR S2000.
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The funny thing about the Cusco cage is how many people go on and on about it being poorly made and unsafe and have absolutely ZERO data to back up what they are saying. Sure a full welded in cage will be stronger, but that in no way means a bolt-in cage won't do it's job.
Lots of D1 and time-attack cars use bolt-in/bolt-together cages
Lot's of "engineers" on these forums.
Lots of D1 and time-attack cars use bolt-in/bolt-together cages
Lot's of "engineers" on these forums.
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Lots of ignorant boneheads speaking badly about cusco cages lol glad these last few posts have put out some great examples AND facts about cusco cages. Yes weld in cages are excellent, but as shown above, cusco is around for a reason and has been around for YEARS and is still a legal cage in Japan as far as I know.
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The funny thing about the Cusco cage is how many people go on and on about it being poorly made and unsafe and have absolutely ZERO data to back up what they are saying. Sure a full welded in cage will be stronger, but that in no way means a bolt-in cage won't do it's job.
Lots of D1 and time-attack cars use bolt-in/bolt-together cages
Lot's of "engineers" on these forums.
Lots of D1 and time-attack cars use bolt-in/bolt-together cages
Lot's of "engineers" on these forums.
And posting one accident from a street crash from 6 years ago, doesn't equate to "it's safe, use it everywhere!".
that's like saying wearing a bullet-proof codpiece is a brilliant idea, because it stopped a bullet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac7P6tYRzxI
Bottom line, while I'm sure that cute blue roll bar will help to some degree... why not go with a better designed bar with proper triangulation?
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While this is accurate for "professional" series, the amateur racing series don't always require welded-in cages. There are a few NASA/SCCA series where you can run a bolt-in cage. Although I don't know too many shops who will recommend or build a race car with a bolt-in cage, as they generally like repeat business.