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MINI JCW R56
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MEGANE RS 250
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BMW 220I
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Old 04-13-2019, 04:13 AM
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Question New Daily for occasional track use

Hello guys,

Need a new daily. It will be used occasionally for trackdays.

Year 2007+
HP 180+
FWD / AWD / RWD

The chosen ones:

MINI JCW R56 w/ minor mods (remap, coilovers, Intercooler..)
2012 / 256hp remap and minor mods




Renault Megane RS 250
MY 2011 250 hp stock




Toyota GT86 Aero
MY 2012 200hp stock



BMW 220I
MY 2012 184hp stock (minor mods easy 280hp)







Anyone with experience in any of these cars? Mini JCW is the cheapest. BMW is the most rational option.
Old 04-14-2019, 09:30 AM
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My buddy has a BRZ(86), its a super fun car all around, while its a 4 seat, its really a 2 seater with a rear cushioned storage lol. Nice trunk space. Not a ton of power, but enough to have fun in twisties.

Its got a torsen like the S and multiple TC modes. Its pretty balanced even with the TC off it rotates well, and the oversteer is really predictable.

I'd definitely say drive one.
Old 04-14-2019, 09:50 AM
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Renault Megane RS 250 are really sweet and cool. Clio V6 is a dream car, but Megane is newer incarnate.
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velosterN or if you're in Europe, the 4 door version with the same "N"gine?

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I have a FR-S (GT-86) as my daily. I actually took it out to it's first track day this weekend since my S2000 wasn't ready.

The car is a fantastic daily and occasional track car. I get 30MPG city/highway combined. I have had 4 people in the car only once and everyone was uncomfortable. Kids should be fine in the back, though.

On track it is miles easier to drive than the S2000, but it is slower. I would disagree with the above that it rotates well. It understeers pretty bad, which is good for beginners. Regardless, I had a ton of fun with it on track.
Old 04-15-2019, 06:36 AM
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I'd go Toyota or BMW because RWD. The 2 series will make more power when modified, and it is balanced, but expensive parts.
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Originally Posted by roel03
I have a FR-S (GT-86) as my daily. I actually took it out to it's first track day this weekend since my S2000 wasn't ready.

The car is a fantastic daily and occasional track car. I get 30MPG city/highway combined. I have had 4 people in the car only once and everyone was uncomfortable. Kids should be fine in the back, though.

On track it is miles easier to drive than the S2000, but it is slower. I would disagree with the above that it rotates well. It understeers pretty bad, which is good for beginners. Regardless, I had a ton of fun with it on track.
it does under-steer pretty bad stock compared to say an ap1(i own an 01).. but ap2 owners might feel at home. lol. I always turn TC off when I drive my buddies 86, because the only way to get any step out(oversteer) is with it off since it prefers under-steer, and you gotta gas it early. Hey what do I know though, I've just driven his a few times for fun, not at the track. So about the most ive taken one is 6/10ths on the street.

Either way, still a fun car, thats not overly energetic for dailying. And fun in the twisties.
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BRZ/FR-S/86 all the way. Cheap camber bolts will give some needed negative camber up front. I went with Raceseng camber plates on my BRZ and got -3.2 for street/track However they cost me some bump travel, so if car is to be lowered be careful there or ride over bumps will suffer massively!
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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol
Renault Megane RS 250 are really sweet and cool. Clio V6 is a dream car, but Megane is newer incarnate.
Waitaminute, Clio V6 is mid-engined, right? It was a "Clio" in name only. Isn't the Megane RS250 just another FF hatch with decent power?
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Be mindful if you get an early brz/86, the first few years had a bad tune and injector issues. Friend took the motor out twice at the track. Subi finally said no joy on a 3rd replacement and he sold the car. Regular tracker. Getting on/off throttle quickly caused a super lean as the computer got fooled and boom.

Personally the interior/space you spend time in the brz/86 isn't something I'd want to live with, nor is the lack of power something I'd want.

Have you looked into a 350/370z? Trunk is miserable.

Could likely get a mustang for cheap with a v8...


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