PLYRS 3

since my car is at the dealer anyways, i'm going to go and drop off the kg/mm's and have them install them - they said they could have the car ready tomorrow aft.

charging 2 hours labour at $78/hr - not bad.

will give my impressions over the weekend - although, they won't be conclusive since i'm rolling on snows right now.

ed (tams2), i know we talked a couple of weeks ago, but let me know if you still want the h&r's. if not, i'll make them available to the marketplace.

on a side note...

i wish i had the money to just go out and buy a ferrari - at least that way, i wouldn't be giving myself a headache trying to figure out which mod to do next....

see you.

Nabs 79

i must have missed something, why are you going with kg/mm springs over h&r's? And why not just go coil-over? I personally would never just install springs without the proper shocks to match the characteristics. Good luck with the springs, keep us informed how they compare.

momo652

About the ferrari, just trade in all your cars and you should be getting close to a F355. lol

How much of a drop are those kg/mms compared to the H&R's?

What are you lettin the H&Rs go for? Is the ride stiffer with those?

S TWO K

I think you'll be happy, I'm very satisfied with the ride quality.

momo652

IS it stiffer than stock?

PLYRS 3

itr, yeah, i know, i was going to get coilovers, just didn't have the cash at the moment. plus i like a change every now and then - the kg/mm's were $430 - relatively small investment especially since i can sell the h&r's to recoup some of that.

on a side note, many people on the board have said that coilovers are the way to go...but, i had a VR6 corrado with coilovers back in the day. i then switched to an eibach/koni spring/shock combo from the coilovers. my experience was that THAT car handled better with spring/shocks than with the coilovers. so, from my experience, i'm not confident that coilovers will ALWAYS be better than a spring shock combo - i can't/don't agree with that statement for a fact. i may get koni's to go with the kg/mm's in the future as i'm sure after another year, my stock shocks should/will be toast (50K on car now).

momo, PERSONALLY, at high speeds, i found the h&r's a little on the soft side (compared to stock). but then again, i didn't have the stock springs on long enough to form a concise opinion. i just "recall" the stock ones as being stiffer. i've offered them to ed tam - if he doesn't want 'em, i'll contact you. the h&r's offer a one inch drop and the kg/mm's are a tad more.

regards.

momo652

Also does lowering your car void warranty?

PLYRS 3

based on my experiences, no, if the "work" is performed by a dealer.

as you may be aware, most manufacturers - especially honda/vw/audi - offer many aftermarket items through their dealer network/parts deparment.

also, it has been my experience that depending on your approach/manner, they will turn a blind eye to some things. i had my 2 front shocks replaced under warranty about a month after i lowered my car even though a dealer DID NOT do the install.

also, i seem to have great relationships with car dealerships for some reason....

S TWO K

I would say the ride is a little stiffer, and the car may handle marginally better.

My dealer installed them for me.