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01-31-2011, 03:26 AM
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no but if you have a road car that see's the occasional track action i think they would have enough effect for the money.
if you had a full blown race car then aerodynic proven parts would be a must.
if you had a full blown race car then aerodynic proven parts would be a must.
01-31-2011, 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by MB,Jan 31 2011, 03:21 AM
We aren't buying them for looks though!
I never looked into how good they are in offering stability or increased downforce, I've always though they look the most attractive though.
01-31-2011, 03:48 AM
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Rob, I agree on the race car thing.
For a track car you just want the back a bit more planted, no real science needed. But even for a track car how do you know the "Ebay special made by Dave in his shed" won't produce lift? Some of them do if you aren't careful.
At least with some of the ones mentioned here, they have some sort of testing and history of use by owners (mostly on the US forum)
Unless you really know what you are looking at I really can't see how you can guess at buying a DIY one.
For a track car you just want the back a bit more planted, no real science needed. But even for a track car how do you know the "Ebay special made by Dave in his shed" won't produce lift? Some of them do if you aren't careful.
At least with some of the ones mentioned here, they have some sort of testing and history of use by owners (mostly on the US forum)
Unless you really know what you are looking at I really can't see how you can guess at buying a DIY one.
01-31-2011, 03:50 AM
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Suits, I agree the J's ones are most likely to work as they use them on their actual race cars at top level racing, and i'd bet there's a lot of info they can give to support this. But I guess my point is that looks aren't everything.
Gib, not sure about Voltex other than they are FOOOKING massive
Gib, not sure about Voltex other than they are FOOOKING massive
01-31-2011, 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by m1bjr,Jan 31 2011, 07:45 AM
Could be other things causing the loose end though in a transition.
I would get an expert to analyse how you drive that set first mate.
As I kept finding - there is always a faster way and its not always a technique you would think of or know
Please - this is no criticism as I dont know you and I see you are a very capable track driver by the videos.
It'sjust a case of "We dont know, what we don't know"
I would get an expert to analyse how you drive that set first mate.
As I kept finding - there is always a faster way and its not always a technique you would think of or know
Please - this is no criticism as I dont know you and I see you are a very capable track driver by the videos.
It'sjust a case of "We dont know, what we don't know"
made my S do things I didn't think possible and I'm still grinning like a cheshire cat from that little spin out in the ol 'Datsun' lolSorry, OT...
01-31-2011, 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by MB,Jan 31 2011, 02:50 AM
Steve was yours an APR 200 too? Supposed to be designed for 120 mph and below, which is most tracks really.
Raz, i'm looking at the J's low mount or the Ings one.
I'd like one of the J's mid mount 3D ones but all of them look foooking massive (quoted at 19cm) where the APR is quoted as 25cm but always looks far higher.
R8, APR do CFD tests on their wings. Looks wise it's function over form when it comes to wings rather than a show piece for local burger chain! I agree J's are the one to go for if possible though, it's just I do think the APR one does the job.
Raz, i'm looking at the J's low mount or the Ings one.
I'd like one of the J's mid mount 3D ones but all of them look foooking massive (quoted at 19cm) where the APR is quoted as 25cm but always looks far higher.
R8, APR do CFD tests on their wings. Looks wise it's function over form when it comes to wings rather than a show piece for local burger chain! I agree J's are the one to go for if possible though, it's just I do think the APR one does the job.
I'll be going J's 3D this year with the new setup.
01-31-2011, 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by MB,Jan 31 2011, 04:50 AM
But I guess my point is that looks aren't everything.
I bet Dave's Shedwings are awesome mind you
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01-31-2011, 04:14 AM
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Just take one off a scooby, shirley? :shrugs:
Re having two bootlids - if it's function over form, how about just putting bungs in the holes when not in use? It'll save you a couple of hundred and it's probably easier to remove the wing than the whole bootlid?
Re having two bootlids - if it's function over form, how about just putting bungs in the holes when not in use? It'll save you a couple of hundred and it's probably easier to remove the wing than the whole bootlid?
01-31-2011, 04:15 AM
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what are peoples views on front bumper canards (if staying with standard)?
I don't imagine OEM lip spoilers create any downforce (or very little)....or another question, is extra front downforce benificial when using a rear wing?
I don't imagine OEM lip spoilers create any downforce (or very little)....or another question, is extra front downforce benificial when using a rear wing?