How many VGS owners are on here then?
07-06-2015, 01:06 AM
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VGS = Variable Gear Ratio Steering.
Very helpful Honda press release/newspage
It's worth mentioning that a couple of people have spoken up about their steering racks suffering some type of failure - they were both VGS. One place in the UK had some experience of this problem and the fix was relatively expensive.
As usual, this is simply a rare technology and few places have experience so expect plenty of scare-mongering and the usual built with witchcraft style approach.
I recently uprated every component to do with the steering on my S2000, however I didn't fit VGS - that was only because I knew the rack and associated components were hard to locate and relatively expensive. If one comes up at a decent price, I'll buy it and install it.
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Update:
I've actually just done a search on this, turns out a couple of people have had failures and as ever, plenty of scaremongering. If anyone has a failed rack they're going to bin with the associated control modules, I'm happy to strip it, find out what's wrong and document how I get on.
Very helpful Honda press release/newspage
It's worth mentioning that a couple of people have spoken up about their steering racks suffering some type of failure - they were both VGS. One place in the UK had some experience of this problem and the fix was relatively expensive.
As usual, this is simply a rare technology and few places have experience so expect plenty of scare-mongering and the usual built with witchcraft style approach.
I recently uprated every component to do with the steering on my S2000, however I didn't fit VGS - that was only because I knew the rack and associated components were hard to locate and relatively expensive. If one comes up at a decent price, I'll buy it and install it.
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Update:
I've actually just done a search on this, turns out a couple of people have had failures and as ever, plenty of scaremongering. If anyone has a failed rack they're going to bin with the associated control modules, I'm happy to strip it, find out what's wrong and document how I get on.
07-06-2015, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by acid2000' timestamp='1436135132' post='23670513
Sorry for my ignorance buts what's VGS?
Very helpful Honda press release/newspage
It's worth mentioning that a couple of people have spoken up about their steering racks suffering some type of failure - they were both VGS. One place in the UK had some experience of this problem and the fix was relatively expensive.
As usual, this is simply a rare technology and few places have experience so expect plenty of scare-mongering and the usual built with witchcraft style approach.
I recently uprated every component to do with the steering on my S2000, however I didn't fit VGS - that was only because I knew the rack and associated components were hard to locate and relatively expensive. If one comes up at a decent price, I'll buy it and install it.
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Update:
I've actually just done a search on this, turns out a couple of people have had failures and as ever, plenty of scaremongering. If anyone has a failed rack they're going to bin with the associated control modules, I'm happy to strip it, find out what's wrong and document how I get on.
07-07-2015, 12:00 AM
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Thanks - I'm now officially on the lookout for a failed rack.
My grandfather used to service and rebuild power steering units on commercial vehicles so I'm reasonably confident I can find a resolution. If the used racks on ebay were 900quid I'd buy one to experiment on.
I have no issue with people going on about how something's better, but I'd prefer a side-by-side comparison with pictures (clearly that's more challenging with ECU modules).
My grandfather used to service and rebuild power steering units on commercial vehicles so I'm reasonably confident I can find a resolution. If the used racks on ebay were 900quid I'd buy one to experiment on.
I have no issue with people going on about how something's better, but I'd prefer a side-by-side comparison with pictures (clearly that's more challenging with ECU modules).
07-07-2015, 01:30 AM
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There is a used rack on ebay now for £900...i would be very interested in a right up 'step by step' if someone decided to investigate the workings of the unit! i have a spare for mine that was sold to me in full working order..not that i want to tempt fate but for what i paid it was a steal in comparison...i spat my coffee out when i found out how much a replacement was from Honda 
In terms of the VGS system i can't compare to a standard S2000 because i haven't driven one...it takes a bit of time to get used to Vgs but personally i absolutely love it..friends that have driven my car have commented that it drive's/handles like a go kart on steroids
I have seen two VGS broken for parts in recent years and another 1 or 2 for sale...one being around Cheshire area £10,000 ish if i recall correct and the other being an ap2 import with low low miles that was up for around £15,000 ish. i agree it would be good to have a more accurate number on how may there are around..
In terms of the VGS system i can't compare to a standard S2000 because i haven't driven one...it takes a bit of time to get used to Vgs but personally i absolutely love it..friends that have driven my car have commented that it drive's/handles like a go kart on steroids
I have seen two VGS broken for parts in recent years and another 1 or 2 for sale...one being around Cheshire area £10,000 ish if i recall correct and the other being an ap2 import with low low miles that was up for around £15,000 ish. i agree it would be good to have a more accurate number on how may there are around..
07-07-2015, 01:59 AM
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I intend to dis-assemble and media blast the entirety of my OEM steering rack as it is and document so this will give an ideal base reference.
I'll gladly fit VGS but I'll be buying a rack and stripping it first before installing it (if one comes up at a non-criminal price) - just another excitement to come.
I'll gladly fit VGS but I'll be buying a rack and stripping it first before installing it (if one comes up at a non-criminal price) - just another excitement to come.
08-23-2015, 11:43 PM
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I've only ever seen one VGS in person. It was at the Show on the Hoe in Plymouth.
There was a sign in his window which read: 'One of only X in the UK'. I can't remember the number but it was very low.
Nice car. Would love to have a go in a VGS and see how different it feels.
There was a sign in his window which read: 'One of only X in the UK'. I can't remember the number but it was very low.
Nice car. Would love to have a go in a VGS and see how different it feels.
Black with purple Advan wheels currently, so guess a local car K14xxx - Robbos?
PS I'm in a 3.4S porker so didn't bother bringing that up there pmsl!
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08-25-2015, 03:13 AM
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If the pics are anything to go by it looks like it's taken a knock to the O/S/F - right on the wheel where it will transfer load through the rack - I'd want some kind of warranty with it at least.
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