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I guess I should just give up watching this show now, I know it is going to just aggravate me
Bernie shouted me down to watch it last night as it had a good group test, 911TT, 360 Modena, TVR Tuscan....
Much shouting by me at the numpty driving round the track ensued and the result was quite staggering - I mean really, do you buy a Ferrari for its load carrying ability??? Do you expect it to be cheap to run?? Why yes, of course it should have the same cost per mile as a Saxo - its all so clear to me now
Critisism of 360 Modena - "this throttle has terrible lag".... of course it does you stupid prat - you got the f'ing driver aids turned on! Press the button marked "sport" and you might even get round the track in a quicker time than a Renault Clio..... arghhhh!!!
The TVR looks an awesome beast though, very raw and immensely quick! I need a 996 Turbo, that's all I can say, pure desire on my part for the car - style, quality, AWD, PSM, 190 mph.... perfect everyday car and a 360 to have fun in
Yes I know I'm biased but I really feel the Ferrari didn't get a fair crack of the whip
One redeeming feature of the show was a used NSX being recommended as a great cheap alternative to the group test cars.... 96/97 cars go for about
Bernie shouted me down to watch it last night as it had a good group test, 911TT, 360 Modena, TVR Tuscan....
Much shouting by me at the numpty driving round the track ensued and the result was quite staggering - I mean really, do you buy a Ferrari for its load carrying ability??? Do you expect it to be cheap to run?? Why yes, of course it should have the same cost per mile as a Saxo - its all so clear to me now
Critisism of 360 Modena - "this throttle has terrible lag".... of course it does you stupid prat - you got the f'ing driver aids turned on! Press the button marked "sport" and you might even get round the track in a quicker time than a Renault Clio..... arghhhh!!!
The TVR looks an awesome beast though, very raw and immensely quick! I need a 996 Turbo, that's all I can say, pure desire on my part for the car - style, quality, AWD, PSM, 190 mph.... perfect everyday car and a 360 to have fun in
Yes I know I'm biased but I really feel the Ferrari didn't get a fair crack of the whip
One redeeming feature of the show was a used NSX being recommended as a great cheap alternative to the group test cars.... 96/97 cars go for about
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Tif, I tend to agree that overall the Ferrari was not treated fairly (I mean, taking the cars to Jordan F1 and asking them to comment - now there is a nice neutral group of folks!!!!)
I was holding my breath when we got the the cheap alternative section after the Camaro fiasco a few weeks ago....now what might we suggest.........perhaps a Ford Transit - very economical and so practical on that run to Sainsburys. Not so good on the track, but when driven by a total w@nker nearly as quick as a Clio and just edges the Ferrari.
But, to my suprise, a sensible suggestion - an NSX! I was in John Cooper Honda nr. Worthing last week and they had no less than 4 second hand NSX's ranging from
I was holding my breath when we got the the cheap alternative section after the Camaro fiasco a few weeks ago....now what might we suggest.........perhaps a Ford Transit - very economical and so practical on that run to Sainsburys. Not so good on the track, but when driven by a total w@nker nearly as quick as a Clio and just edges the Ferrari.
But, to my suprise, a sensible suggestion - an NSX! I was in John Cooper Honda nr. Worthing last week and they had no less than 4 second hand NSX's ranging from
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Personally Im not a big lover of the 360, I think its gone a bit to curvacious and a bit girlie, this is backed up by my missus saying she had just seen her dream car. I prefer the 355 myself. I think one think Jason 'sporty spice' Plato did say which I agreed with 100% was that he hated the F1 paddle shifts, If I had that money to spend on a car I would like to feel like I was driving it and the paddle shifts would detract from that.
I had to laugh when they did the practicality bit as although the TVR has a nice big boot its no use when your driving around in the Micra courtesy car while they fix the tuscan, again!!
I met a guy at my last tracy day with a Y reg Cerbera he says it goes back to the garage weekly and for the 40 mile drive to thr track the windscreen wipers wouldnt work, 42K for a car without windscreen wipers, shocking!!!!
Lets face it the cost of ownership was pure comedy the fezza really does take the piss with 800 quid for a wing mirror.
For me the Porsche should have been the winner, it was the only one of the 3 cars on test that you could drive reliably on a daily basis.
But then again that Noble M12 looked nice.
I had to laugh when they did the practicality bit as although the TVR has a nice big boot its no use when your driving around in the Micra courtesy car while they fix the tuscan, again!!
I met a guy at my last tracy day with a Y reg Cerbera he says it goes back to the garage weekly and for the 40 mile drive to thr track the windscreen wipers wouldnt work, 42K for a car without windscreen wipers, shocking!!!!
Lets face it the cost of ownership was pure comedy the fezza really does take the piss with 800 quid for a wing mirror.
For me the Porsche should have been the winner, it was the only one of the 3 cars on test that you could drive reliably on a daily basis.
But then again that Noble M12 looked nice.
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Originally posted by ianl
Tif, I tend to agree that overall the Ferrari was not treated fairly (I mean, taking the cars to Jordan F1 and asking them to comment - now there is a nice neutral group of folks!!!!)
Tif, I tend to agree that overall the Ferrari was not treated fairly (I mean, taking the cars to Jordan F1 and asking them to comment - now there is a nice neutral group of folks!!!!)
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Jason, I so agree with you, the Porsche wiped the floor with the other cars. TVR practicality!!! You summed that up nicely!
FWIW I'd have my 360 with the paddle shift for a bit of variety, after all the 550, 456M, F40, F50, 512TR etc. that it would share the garage with would all have the classic gated manual wouldn't they
The F355 is still arguably the most beautiful of the modern cars and I'm led to believe it still sounds better and has a sweeter transmission than its sucessor. Definitely my car of choice!
FWIW I'd have my 360 with the paddle shift for a bit of variety, after all the 550, 456M, F40, F50, 512TR etc. that it would share the garage with would all have the classic gated manual wouldn't they
The F355 is still arguably the most beautiful of the modern cars and I'm led to believe it still sounds better and has a sweeter transmission than its sucessor. Definitely my car of choice!
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the "scoring" system on that programme never ceases to amaze me....
Car A - Category whatever = crap, rubbish, waste of time .... we think it's worth 16 out of 20
Car B - Same category = great, brilliant, everyone must have one.... got to be worth at least 17
Why don't they just settle on a scale of 1 to 3 ?
(I hate the presenters too - mouthy gits)
Pete
Car A - Category whatever = crap, rubbish, waste of time .... we think it's worth 16 out of 20
Car B - Same category = great, brilliant, everyone must have one.... got to be worth at least 17
Why don't they just settle on a scale of 1 to 3 ?
(I hate the presenters too - mouthy gits)
Pete
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Gods but it drives me mad too Pete:
last night, the "desirability test"
2 people stand next to the Ferrari, 6 next to the Porsche, 6 coach fulls around the TVR, hanging off every panel with mounted Police trying to stop them all rioting with eye rolling foaming mouthed frenzies of rapture.....
Cue the presenter's read on this, oh lets give the Porsche and Ferrari 22 points and the TVR 23.....WTF??!! Why bother asking their opinions in the first place if you pay no attention to what the actual response is
last night, the "desirability test"
2 people stand next to the Ferrari, 6 next to the Porsche, 6 coach fulls around the TVR, hanging off every panel with mounted Police trying to stop them all rioting with eye rolling foaming mouthed frenzies of rapture.....
Cue the presenter's read on this, oh lets give the Porsche and Ferrari 22 points and the TVR 23.....WTF??!! Why bother asking their opinions in the first place if you pay no attention to what the actual response is
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Originally posted by Tifosi Red
The F355 is still arguably the most beautiful of the modern cars and I'm led to believe it still sounds better and has a sweeter transmission than its sucessor. Definitely my car of choice!
The F355 is still arguably the most beautiful of the modern cars and I'm led to believe it still sounds better and has a sweeter transmission than its sucessor. Definitely my car of choice!
I missed Driven BTW but I usually respect what Plaito has to say. I don't think he's a big Ferrari fan!